Wreck in Brazil

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Wreckage of 17th-century Dutch cargo ship found near Brazil

Budapest (Hungary): A team of Hungarian marine archaeologists has found the wreckage of a Dutch cargo ship that sank near the Brazilian coast over three centuries ago.

Voetboog was a three-mast flyboat, which left the port of Batavia (now Jakarta) for The Netherlands with a 109-member crew on board, the expedition leader Attila K. Szaloky told MTI, a Hungarian news agency.

Owned by the Dutch East India Company, the Fluyt ship carried silk, spices, tea, Japanese and Chinese porcelain as well as nearly 180,000 pieces of Dutch golden ducats.

"The estimated value of the wreckage is about 1 billion dollars," said Szaloky.

Sailing on the Atlantic, the ship was probably caught by a storm and its only chance to get home was to stick close to the Brazilian coast.

For reasons unknown, however, it sank near the coast of Pernambuco state on May 29, 1700.

The team of Octopus Association for Marine Archaeology found the wreckage in October 2008, but announced the discovery only after the first phase of examinations came to an end.

The objects found in the depths suggest that it is indeed the wreckage of Voetboog, which is lying on the seabed under several metres thick of sediment.

"Over the past 309 years, the ship has virtually disintegrated," Szaloky said.

The finds will be brought to surface and conserved in line with Brazilian law.
 

Pirate Diver:
The expedition leader's media-spun values of the artifacts from this vessel is an never-ending source of amusement. To state: "The estimated value of the wreckage is about 1 billion dollars", then follow up that statement with: "Over the past 309 years, the ship has virtually disintegrated." seems to me as Step One in the process of soliciting funds from gullible and unsuspecting investors. And flooding the market with 180,000 ducats, not currently in the current collector's coin population, can't help but decrease the value of each coin.

That said, I hope it is the vessel indicated and I hope they make a 'mint' (sorry), but realizing one billion--come on. And it's good to see that the quest continues--worldwide--even in this economy. Thanks for sharing the article.
Don....
 

Don: I agree with you about the hyperbole, what a joke. Regardless of the value of the wreck it still sounds very interesting. I'll have to do some research into what Brazil gets out of it.


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If it was returning from Batavia, why was it carrying the silver coins?

Another scam in the making...
 

Alexandre said:
If it was returning from Batavia, why was it carrying the silver coins?

Another scam in the making...

I heard that the only coin they found was the one shown on their website ! And they found the wreckage in 2008... Story not very clear to me...
 

There is not any single word in the Brazilian press so far.

If this story is true and this hungarian team 'found' the wreck in Brazilian waters, then they were surveying inside the 200 miles limit within the Brazilian continental platform and the LESTA and R-LESTA laws are clear. Only surveying ships shall remain within this limit and under strict permission.

So, if this story is true, Brazilian Navy is aware of each step these people are taking.
Let's see if in the next days these news hit the Brazilian press.
I will try to find out about it.
 

Alexandre said:
If it was returning from Batavia, why was it carrying the silver coins?

Another scam in the making...

Unfortunatelly You are right ! This group made a lot of hoaxes in hungarian media, for example this article is a paid advert via MTI (hungarian news agency) It costs appr 100 USD:) And what is in the background? Nothing, just an arrogant liar: Szaloky.
They try to enroll "investors" who can dive with them for appr 1500 usd for a week. They make applicants belive there is a lot of coin in the deep, and of course there is nothing. They can recruit people with this kind of articles only.
 

The Hun said:
Alexandre said:
If it was returning from Batavia, why was it carrying the silver coins?

Another scam in the making...

Unfortunatelly You are right ! This group made a lot of hoaxes in hungarian media, for example this article is a paid advert via MTI (hungarian news agency) It costs appr 100 USD :) And what is in the background? Nothing, just an arrogant liar: Szaloky.
They try to enroll "investors" who can dive with them for appr 1500 usd for a week. They make applicants belive there is a lot of coin in the deep, and of course there is nothing. They can recruit people with this kind of articles only.

By the way they are NOT marine archeologist, just a simple divers and adventurers:) nothing else.
Try to find this news from independent source, not from MTI !
 

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