Worked a New Section of My Best Site...Fatty Indian Head and a Bottle Dump!

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I got out for a bit last evening to check out a section of my favorite site that I have not had a chance to detect yet. So far other sections of this HUGE site have given up more than a dozen coppers and a few Spanish silver coins, along with hundreds of buttons, some US and British military.

This new section appears to have been farmland at one time, but now is mainly upland forest with thick patches of thorn bushes. Wearing shorts is never the best attire for detecting in the woods, and it certainly did hinder my search. So I worked around the shrubbery as best as I could, digging many shotgun shell signals, which almost all turned out to be shotgun shells...All but one! The one that fooled me turned out to be a "Fatty" Indian Head Cent (1860-1864). I cannot get the date, as the obverse is not pretty. The reverse did have some detail and i was able to clean it without totally destroying it.

I also dug part of a colonial era pewter spoon and a window sash with the patent date 1849. This, along with the nearby bottle dump leads me to believe that there was a structure nearby. It may be in the center of the thorny patches. Pruning Shears may be necessary to hit the spot!

My best find of the day came from the bottle dump. There were clam shells and bottle shards everywhere! I carefully dug a test hole and was lucky to get an intact bottle from Jone's Apothecary, Mt. Holly NJ. (I cannot seem to find any info on this business. I will swing by the library tomorrow to see what i can dig up - no pun intended!). I plan on returning with the proper bottle digging tools soon!

Jones was a pharmacist in Mt Holly from circa 1867 to circa 1907, but the store may have kept the name after he retired: http://books.google.com/books?id=5i...5IZBbZpGn6X7YyDJmUTA&ci=83,137,796,315&edge=0
 

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Neil in West Jersey said:
I got out for a bit last evening to check out a section of my favorite site that I have not had a chance to detect yet. So far other sections of this HUGE site have given up more than a dozen coppers and a few Spanish silver coins, along with hundreds of buttons, some US and British military.

This new section appears to have been farmland at one time, but now is mainly upland forest with thick patches of thorn bushes. Wearing shorts is never the best attire for detecting in the woods, and it certainly did hinder my search. So I worked around the shrubbery as best as I could, digging many shotgun shell signals, which almost all turned out to be shotgun shells...All but one! The one that fooled me turned out to be a "Fatty" Indian Head Cent (1860-1864). I cannot get the date, as the obverse is not pretty. The reverse did have some detail and i was able to clean it without totally destroying it.

I also dug part of a colonial era pewter spoon and a window sash with the patent date 1849. This, along with the nearby bottle dump leads me to believe that there was a structure nearby. It may be in the center of the thorny patches. Pruning Shears may be necessary to hit the spot!

My best find of the day came from the bottle dump. There were clam shells and bottle shards everywhere! I carefully dug a test hole and was lucky to get an intact bottle from Jone's Apothecary, Mt. Holly NJ. (I cannot seem to find any info on this business. I will swing by the library tomorrow to see what i can dig up - no pun intended!). I plan on returning with the proper bottle digging tools soon!

Jones was a pharmacist in Mt Holly from circa 1867 to circa 1907, but the store may have kept the name after he retired: http://books.google.com/books?id=5i...5IZBbZpGn6X7YyDJmUTA&ci=83,137,796,315&edge=0

There was a Jones Apothecary in Philadelphia. Since Mt. Holly is in Flatlanderville and across the river from Philly...Maybe a link...
http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/J/J.htm
 

BttleDiggerDrew said:
Neil in West Jersey said:
I got out for a bit last evening to check out a section of my favorite site that I have not had a chance to detect yet. So far other sections of this HUGE site have given up more than a dozen coppers and a few Spanish silver coins, along with hundreds of buttons, some US and British military.

This new section appears to have been farmland at one time, but now is mainly upland forest with thick patches of thorn bushes. Wearing shorts is never the best attire for detecting in the woods, and it certainly did hinder my search. So I worked around the shrubbery as best as I could, digging many shotgun shell signals, which almost all turned out to be shotgun shells...All but one! The one that fooled me turned out to be a "Fatty" Indian Head Cent (1860-1864). I cannot get the date, as the obverse is not pretty. The reverse did have some detail and i was able to clean it without totally destroying it.

I also dug part of a colonial era pewter spoon and a window sash with the patent date 1849. This, along with the nearby bottle dump leads me to believe that there was a structure nearby. It may be in the center of the thorny patches. Pruning Shears may be necessary to hit the spot!

My best find of the day came from the bottle dump. There were clam shells and bottle shards everywhere! I carefully dug a test hole and was lucky to get an intact bottle from Jone's Apothecary, Mt. Holly NJ. (I cannot seem to find any info on this business. I will swing by the library tomorrow to see what i can dig up - no pun intended!). I plan on returning with the proper bottle digging tools soon!

Jones was a pharmacist in Mt Holly from circa 1867 to circa 1907, but the store may have kept the name after he retired: http://books.google.com/books?id=5i...5IZBbZpGn6X7YyDJmUTA&ci=83,137,796,315&edge=0

There was a Jones Apothecary in Philadelphia. Since Mt. Holly is in Flatlanderville and across the river from Philly...Maybe a link...
http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/J/J.htm

Great link, but the bottle is from the days long before chain stores. Even today, it is at least a 30 minute drive to Mt. Holly from Philadelphia. Back then it would have involved taking Cooper's Ferry to Camden and then the old Mt. Holly Rd.; a full day's travel.

I have found a bit more info as you can see by the link below that Edward B. Jones was a graduate of the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy in 1867 and set up a shop in Mt. Holly some time after that. The shop was located on Washington Ave "Opp the fountain" for 40 years. He was on the NJ State Board at least until 1910. It appears that in 1897, he sent an apprentice named John Wickoff Bayles to the college as well.

http://tinyurl.com/24trvgp
 

Great finds yes those NJ thorn bushes are killers, stung many atimes. sounds like a fun site. HH Mark
 

The older the site the closer the dump to the house your thorny patch sounds like the ticket
 

Congrat's on the Fatty Neil....Look's like some fun diggin' there :icon_thumright:
 

Hey Neal, nice finds. I missed your previous posts regarding this new site of yours. Can you tell me when you posted some of those finds or post some links to them? Thanks.
 

bookfisher said:
Hey Neal, nice finds. I missed your previous posts regarding this new site of yours. Can you tell me when you posted some of those finds or post some links to them? Thanks.


The site is not so new, in fact I am in my fourth season working it, but it is many hundreds of acres of former farm land.

I have found many coppers and hunreds of buttons the most recent good finds were posted back in June & July here:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,336317.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,332141.0.html
 

Neil in West Jersey said:
bookfisher said:
Hey Neal, nice finds. I missed your previous posts regarding this new site of yours. Can you tell me when you posted some of those finds or post some links to them? Thanks.


The site is not so new, in fact I am in my fourth season working it, but it is many hundreds of acres of former farm land.

I have found many coppers and hunreds of buttons the most recent good finds were posted back in June & July here:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,336317.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,332141.0.html

Hey Neal, great finds. Thanks for the links. With that many acres, I'm sure that site will continue to produce for years to come. What I do (and I sure you know this), with some of the sites I've pounded, I try to visualize if there are any areas (even a small section) of the site that I've not hit as hard as others. Or if there's an area of the field that hasn't produced that much. Sometimes if an area hasn't produced we give up on it too soon. That's how I found my 1760 reale back in June, it came from a section of the field where I really hadn't found any keepers.
 

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