Winter Finds in Illinois

BobGuy

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It's been a while since my last post but I wanted to share a few finds I have made over the last few months..

My parents bought a piece of property with a very nice rock bottom creek running through it a fee years back where I have found some great stuff including a perfect 3/4 grooved axe. They finished building their house on top of a hill overlooking a small valley that the creek runs through just a few months back. Based on where I was and was not finding stuff it never occurred to me to poke around the construction site for anything until I was over in Christmas Day! Sure enough, I was walking down towards the creek and looked down and saw a nice size blade laying on the top of the soil broken in three pieces! On further inspection the area was littered with broken pieces! Under my nose the entire time!!

Anyway, I am looking for some advice. The bottom pieces are two that I found at my parents. I don't know what the piece on the left is exactly. Is it an unfinished piece, a knife?? The piece to the right has got me as well. I can't tell if it's a piece of pottery or not. It is clay because it dissolves in water and gets the slimy texture that clay does. I'm a total amateur so I have no clue..

The top pieces were found in a different part of the county near another creek well known for Indian activity. I haven't ID'd either. A friend said the one on the left is a preform based on a pic I sent. This thing is as finely worked as anything I have picked up but again I don't have the experience to know.

Is the red one made from red jasper? I'm curious if red jasper is even native to southern Illinois. I've been intrigued by the sources of types if chert and how far they traveled to get here...

Anyway, any help identifying these four is greatly appreciated!! Thanks!
 

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The red point is going to be the best of course but why does it show a sticker with a number on it? Nice finds
 

That is my sophisticated labeling system using paint tape. I'm open for suggestions if you have them.
 

Bobguy - Red Jasper is not uncommon in So Illinois. I have found quite a few red jasper pieces in Southern Illinois. Depending on where you are in Southern Illinois, Burlington chert is also common in red, but your's looks like Jasper to me as well. Very nice piece.
 

Bobguy the red point I don't think is Red Jasper due to what I see at the base and that is a light brown chert look, but that could be just the photo. I do know it does not look like the red jasper that I have found before brought down this way by glacier . The stuff in the bottom right is just clay, pottery will not get slick feeling no matter how long it is in water, it has been tempered by fire which makes it hard. The other two items are nice artifacts and the red point is a killer:icon_thumleft:
 

Bob - another option on the material, much of the Ft Payne and Dover chert in the area will turn red when heat treated. That's definitely an option.
 

Awesome! Thanks for the suggestions that helps!

Any ideas on types??

- Red one - side notch - cache river and Hemphill seem close but from what I can tell Raddatz seems closest?

- gray one - I don't even know where to start. The tip is broken. The base isn't broken and it appears it was made at an angle like that. Is it preform? Adena Blade? Red Ocher?

- white one - knife? Preform? It has that weird knot on the right side mid way up and the opposite side is concave. Is that broken or made that way?
 

...monsterrack beat me to the clay thing...pottery will never dissolve in water...and that red arrowhead is lovely! And...lol on the "sticker" question :)
 

...monsterrack beat me to the clay thing...pottery will never dissolve in water...and that red arrowhead is lovely! And...lol on the "sticker" question :)

Haha! I have a friend who found a grooved axe and marked it in the middle of the groove with a black magic marker! I posted it here last summer and I'm sure people were yelling at their screens!
 

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