Whiskey Springs Maps

[SPARTANOC]

Why would you stake a claim on highgraded ore?

You wouldn't. Sounds like more confusion being thrown into the fray...

 

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[markmar]

Why would you stake a claim on highgraded ore?

if Wagoner would had stolen or possessed ore from a close by mining company, then he would have to sell his ore far away from that region, maybe in another state, in regards to be not catched red handed. He would be in big trouble if someone would recognize the origin of the ore and he would not had an answer to that. Only the black market if would been possible, but big quantities is another risk which could led him to the heaven gates.
Is easy to say he had highgraded ore but hard to say where he sold his ore in regards to survive.

 

[SPARTANOC]

if Wagoner would had stolen or possessed ore from a close by mining company, then he would have to sell his ore far away from that region, maybe in another state, in regards to be not catched red handed. He would be in big trouble if someone would recognize the origin of the ore and he would not had an answer to that. Only the black market if would been possible, but big quantities is another risk which could led him to the heaven gates.
Is easy to say he had highgraded ore but hard to say where he sold his ore in regards to survive.

Not sure that's entirely correct....

 

[SPARTANOC]

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[Idahodutch]

Yes, I do know the story says it's quite purposefully quite buried now, but it is a nice refresher. I didn't remember that when I was out there and consequentially, didn't look. I wonder if thats true, or a nice little CIRCLE to keep people HERE for a loooong time. Either way, Im here and will follow all leads the best I can.... Another hike (besides the ones currently on the fire) is in the planning stages. Winter is short here. I need to do as much as I can, now.

Nice little circle?? No, no spinning by me.

I enjoyed the video you made, not enjoying where the talk seems to be going. Good luck to you and your efforts. 👍

Idahodutch

 

[cuzimloony]

Nice little circle?? No, no spinning by me.

I enjoyed the video you made, not enjoying where the talk seems to be going. Good luck to you and your efforts. 👍

Idahodutch

Oh no I think you misunderstood or probably, I misspoke. I didn't mean to imply YOU put that circle and I apologize if thats what it sounded like.
I was trying to say whoever Originally wrote that, or said that, or "relayed the message" over a hundred years ago, maybe THEY planted a little "circle." I thought I was just making some small-time banter about the little details people place in these legends (not YOU, but the original storyteller).
Maybe too little too late, or damage done, but I honestly didnt mean to offend you, and apologize if I did. It was definately not my intent, nor was it to criticize any details you bring to the discussion, not in the slightest. Your input is valued, greatly.
Again, Im sorry for not being clearer and Im sorry if you found it offensive or took it in a way I wish you didn't.

I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[Idahodutch]

Oh no I think you misunderstood or probably, I misspoke. I didn't mean to imply YOU put that circle and I apologize if thats what it sounded like.
I was trying to say whoever Originally wrote that, or said that, or "relayed the message" over a hundred years ago, maybe THEY planted a little "circle." I thought I was just making some small-time banter about the little details people place in these legends (not YOU, but the original storyteller).
Maybe too little too late, or damage done, but I honestly didnt mean to offend you, and apologize if I did. It was definately not my intent, nor was it to criticize any details you bring to the discussion, not in the slightest. Your input is valued, greatly.
Again, Im sorry for not being clearer and Im sorry if you found it offensive or took it in a way I wish you didn't.

I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving.

Cuzimloony,
Thank you and happy thanksgiving to you as well. 👌👍
Sincerely, Idahodutch

 

[393stroker]

According to Bob, Bob himself dug the pit and made the map.
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I think they are on the hill west of Angel Basin

 

[cuzimloony]

I think they are on the hill west of Angel Basin

Interesting.
If I can pick your brain for a moment...
I see how the trails there at Angel Basin line up with Bobs map, but that can happen in a lot of places where trails intersect.
Is there something about that cryptic writing that led you to this location? I understand if you're keeping it close to the chest. I wont pry. But...... Im going to mull this over a bit and see if I deduce what brought you to this spot. Maybe it's a story I dont know....
I also know Bob wrote that he WOULDN'T go get those paintings. Do you believe him? Finally, did DeGrazie hide more on his own? If he was sore and hurt the first time, with Bob, would he go all the way to Angel Springs solo?

When I first got to AZ, I found an old bookstore in Scottsdale that was going out of business. Found this gem. It's a little treasure all in itself.

I wish it were personalized to me, but I hadn't been born yet so, I guess that's too much to ask.......

 

[393stroker]

Interesting.
If I can pick your brain for a moment...
I see how the trails there at Angel Basin line up with Bobs map, but that can happen in a lot of places where trails intersect.
Is there something about that cryptic writing that led you to this location? I understand if you're keeping it close to the chest. I wont pry. But...... Im going to mull this over a bit and see if I deduce what brought you to this spot. Maybe it's a story I dont know....
I also know Bob wrote that he WOULDN'T go get those paintings. Do you believe him? Finally, did DeGrazie hide more on his own? If he was sore and hurt the first time, with Bob, would he go all the way to Angel Springs solo?

When I first got to AZ, I found an old bookstore in Scottsdale that was going out of business. Found this gem. It's a little treasure all in itself.
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I wish it were personalized to me, but I hadn't been born yet so, I guess that's too much to ask.......

Here`s a pic I took from farther north coming down off White Mountain of Angel Basin. The white rock looks accessible to me. I was just messing around with the letters and their corresponding numbers and matched them up to some co-ordinates. I`m probably way off, but who knows.

 

[cuzimloony]

Here`s a pic I took from farther north coming down off White Mountain of Angel Basin. The white rock looks accessible to me. I was just messing around with the letters and their corresponding numbers and matched them up to some co-ordinates. I`m probably way off, but who knows.

Great pic!
Is this a setup? Are you going to tell me your 70 years old or something like that? Lol

So....is that white rock on the right the area where you're thinking, or is this pic way farther north? It looks accessible to me too......
I thought I read, or heard somewhere, something about these being put in a cave. Not in Bob's book, maybe it was a youtube channel......