Where’s this hobby going, the future of metal detecting.

[Jollyrodger1]

Seems to me since the 70s or so when detecting started in some form or fashion, those folks had field days, meaning they found a lot of coins not deep, also more silver etc. you see nobody replenished the grounds with old stuff anymore.
hobby getting more folks I think, you don’t need to spend 1500.00 on a machine, I see know point unless you learn how to use it. Yes as any hobby gets larger they want to regul it like drone flyers. Unbelievable we aren’t digging graves, and frankly I will detect anyone’s property and gladly show them what’s just a few inches underneath there feet for years. So the hobby needs to learn more, study more because like I said the easy stuff has been found, now technology lets us go a little deeper and seperat is better. Folks you must go slow and in doubt dig it.

 

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[Oldrvrrat57]

I agree with you on the easy stuff has been found . So it takes time, patience and research. There is alot still to be found !! A site is never hunted out IMO

 

[Jollyrodger1]

I agree with you on the easy stuff has been found . So it takes time, patience and research. There is alot still to be found !! A site is never hunted out IMO

Yes sir, my earliest recollection is the whites machines which I had a dfx, not bad for it’s time, I have not a clue what Garrett going to do with there techn since they bought them.
know doubt coins what prior to 1964 where 90% silver, quarters etc. those days are over they don’t make them and it’s more difficult to find things, yes people loose coins but not of that magnitude. So onwards we go, most want nice finds but don’t want to take the time to study old maps and walk a lot so they stick to local parks which have been picked over, imagining where the early settlers where is a nice place

 

[HeavyMetalDetectinPassion]

We shall probably go back to mudlarking... Just like the all old fashion

 

[smokeythecat]

This year I walked onto a "hunted" site, pulled out 18th century shoe buckles, coins, 18th-19th century buttons, including a Civil War eagle button, man's wedding ring, ladies brooch, Zig instead of zag. There is still a LOT of stuff out there.

 

[Jollyrodger1]

State by state offers different things, but more shoreline states boarding the coast is where the earliest people formed a settlement or living space, yes as time went on they ventured more inland, I live on the very western part of Pennsylvania actually 15 minutes from Ohio.

so story be told sure there’s still stuff , things to be found but the pure silver that was closest to surface was easy, silver if you understand, relics also.

 

[pepperj]

1.5 hr little hunt yesterday afternoon.
5 bells, 1917 dime, 43 penny, Tomback button, little buckle, odds and ends.
Not too shabby for the time & effort.
The urban grass has been hit for close to 60yrs.
Private permissions haven't.
Some permissions have 20+ home sites/cellar holes.
Most always have 2- different spots.
Been doing some for a decade now, kind of like having a urban park in the field or bush.
Research, permissions is the way to go.

 

[Jollyrodger1]

Private permissions are nice, it’s having the ability to approach today’s people being paranoid and you get the drift. But your right

 

[pepperj]

Private permissions are nice, it’s having the ability to approach today’s people being paranoid and you get the drift. But your right

Maybe this is more urban paranoia.
The rural is not, folks are generally warm and receptive.
I guess my averages run 95% for private.
Though some have a hard time approaching folks to get the permission.
The permissions that I have now, the home yards I don't ask to do.
If the field is close to the house I ask if its alright to detect it as well.

 

[Mdpartner]

What new tech is on the horizon I know not.

What new tech I want on the horizon I do know.

I want a deeper seeking, discriminating, video displayed detector.

Something along the lines of a Cat Scan so you can see in layers.

 

[Peyton Manning]

I just hope that the beach I’m going to in June hasn’t been hunted this year
I’ll settle for modern jewelry on the beach

 

[TORRERO]

I just hope that the beach I’m going to in June hasn’t been hunted this year
I’ll settle for modern jewelry on the beach

good luck

 

[Jollyrodger1]

Human beings have polluted the ground so bad over the last 250 years, pathetic, pull tabs, cans, etc. not good, terrible things can be avoide.

 

[pepperj]

Human beings have polluted the ground so bad over the last 250 years, pathetic, pull tabs, cans, etc. not good, terrible things can be avoide.

History is basically only 400 yrs for colonials here in NA.
It's amazing really how much(trash) has been discarded in the past 50yrs.

It's now 60 years since the US stopped regular silver mintage of coinage.
It was a lot better averages digging 50 yrs ago for silver than it is today-that's a fact.


The lowly pull tab has only been around the same time as metal detectors.
Some fun facts about their timeline

A timeline​

• 1933 First beer in cans made by the Gottfried Kreuger Brewing Company, Newark
• 1935 January 24 – First commercially sold canned beer, again by Kreuger
• 1935 first cone-top can appears
• 1937 different sized appear on the market, among which the J-spout cone
• 1939 first ‘Crowntainer’, a two piece drawn steel cone, is produced by Crown company.
• 1950 ‘Internal Revenue tax paid’ message disappears from cans
• 1955 last Crowntainers produced
• 1955 last cans with opening instructions produced (had a picture of church key on side)
• 1958 First all aluminium paper-label flat top can – i have no idea what this is, by the way.
• 1959 First 2 piece aluminium can produced
• 1960 last cone top produced
• 1962 zip tab can (Pittsburg brewing company, Iron city beer)
• 1963 first 12 oz all alumum seamless tab top can
• 1964 First U-tab produced (DB Maxwell, 1993)
• 1964 First can end with smile beads (DB Maxwell, 1993)
• 1966 Welded seam cans appear on the market (DB Maxwell, 1993)
• 1969 Cans outsell bottles for the first time
• 1972 ‘Bottle bill’ State of Oregon law against the usage of pull tabs
• 1973 First necked 3-piece Coke cans in Germany, and last year un-necked cans are produced (cola-dosen)
• 1974 First ‘barrel shaped’ can (Maxwell says this was in 1972!)
• 1974-1975 First 2 piece Coke cans in Germany (cola-dosen)
• 1975 Sta-tab introduced by Falls City
• 1975 Push button can introduced by American Can Company
• 1975 first UPC ‘universal product codes’ (streepjescodes) But note that Rustycans says they first appeared on US cans in 1978
• 1975 European 13 digit EAN barcodes were invented around this time.
• 1977 End of the push buttons in the USA – (Would revive briefly in Europe around 1989-1990)
• 1980 UPC codes now on all USA cans. UPC codes start showing up on German cans, too (cola-dosen.de)
• 1983 Last ring pull cans produced in the USA…but definitely not yet in Europe
• 1984 Last straight edge can produced in USA
• 1987 Introduction of the 206 can end
• 1988 Alcohol warnings on beer cans appear in the USA (Maxwell says 1989)
• 1988 Coca-Cola introduces editions of 0.33 CC cans with Push Button ends (coca-cola-dosen.de)
• 1990 Europe switches to Sta-Tab cans
• 1993 USA last drawn steel can produced
• 1998 Ball Corp acquired Reynolds metals industry
• 2013 first L-I-1 Spamcan can – the Crown 360 end

 

[Jollyrodger1]

History is basically only 400 yrs for colonials here in NA.
It's amazing really how much(trash) has been discarded in the past 50yrs.

It's now 60 years since the US stopped regular silver mintage of coinage.
It was a lot better averages digging 50 yrs ago for silver than it is today-that's a fact.


The lowly pull tab has only been around the same time as metal detectors.
Some fun facts about their timeline

A timeline​

• 1933 First beer in cans made by the Gottfried Kreuger Brewing Company, Newark
• 1935 January 24 – First commercially sold canned beer, again by Kreuger
• 1935 first cone-top can appears
• 1937 different sized appear on the market, among which the J-spout cone
• 1939 first ‘Crowntainer’, a two piece drawn steel cone, is produced by Crown company.
• 1950 ‘Internal Revenue tax paid’ message disappears from cans
• 1955 last Crowntainers produced
• 1955 last cans with opening instructions produced (had a picture of church key on side)
• 1958 First all aluminium paper-label flat top can – i have no idea what this is, by the way.
• 1959 First 2 piece aluminium can produced
• 1960 last cone top produced
• 1962 zip tab can (Pittsburg brewing company, Iron city beer)
• 1963 first 12 oz all alumum seamless tab top can
• 1964 First U-tab produced (DB Maxwell, 1993)
• 1964 First can end with smile beads (DB Maxwell, 1993)
• 1966 Welded seam cans appear on the market (DB Maxwell, 1993)
• 1969 Cans outsell bottles for the first time
• 1972 ‘Bottle bill’ State of Oregon law against the usage of pull tabs
• 1973 First necked 3-piece Coke cans in Germany, and last year un-necked cans are produced (cola-dosen)
• 1974 First ‘barrel shaped’ can (Maxwell says this was in 1972!)
• 1974-1975 First 2 piece Coke cans in Germany (cola-dosen)
• 1975 Sta-tab introduced by Falls City
• 1975 Push button can introduced by American Can Company
• 1975 first UPC ‘universal product codes’ (streepjescodes) But note that Rustycans says they first appeared on US cans in 1978
• 1975 European 13 digit EAN barcodes were invented around this time.
• 1977 End of the push buttons in the USA – (Would revive briefly in Europe around 1989-1990)
• 1980 UPC codes now on all USA cans. UPC codes start showing up on German cans, too (cola-dosen.de)
• 1983 Last ring pull cans produced in the USA…but definitely not yet in Europe
• 1984 Last straight edge can produced in USA
• 1987 Introduction of the 206 can end
• 1988 Alcohol warnings on beer cans appear in the USA (Maxwell says 1989)
• 1988 Coca-Cola introduces editions of 0.33 CC cans with Push Button ends (coca-cola-dosen.de)
• 1990 Europe switches to Sta-Tab cans
• 1993 USA last drawn steel can produced
• 1998 Ball Corp acquired Reynolds metals industry
• 2013 first L-I-1 Spamcan can – the Crown 360 end

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[scruggs]

I agree with you on the easy stuff has been found . So it takes time, patience and research. There is alot still to be found !! A site is never hunted out IMO

All of us would be rich if it was all hunted out! Get the best machine you can afford and know how to use it!

 

[Jollyrodger1]

What it comes down to like anything else, expensive machine or not learn it or it doesn’t help when you just turn on and go, that’s not even a recreational hunter. My thoughts and facts are this, those coins of the past were more silver, 90% or so, they don’t make anymore so they don’t lose them. That’s what you and myself, others hope to find. Parks and fields have not been hunted out, but they have taken the top layer off so to speak.

what this means is you must go slower coins aren’t always laying flat, you get little beeps that get overlooke, point is the good stuff is far a few between, im not getting taking about today clad coins, unless you get a rare date. Research, patience and many miles of walking is required.

 

[sprailroad]

1.5 hr little hunt yesterday afternoon.
5 bells, 1917 dime, 43 penny, Tomback button, little buckle, odds and ends.
Not too shabby for the time & effort.
The urban grass has been hit for close to 60yrs.
Private permissions haven't.
Some permissions have 20+ home sites/cellar holes.
Most always have 2- different spots.
Been doing some for a decade now, kind of like having a urban park in the field or bush.
Research, permissions is the way to go.

And of course "Location". You must live in a great area pepperj

 

[TORRERO]

Seems to me since the 70s or so when detecting started in some form or fashion, those folks had field days, meaning they found a lot of coins not deep, also more silver etc. you see nobody replenished the grounds with old stuff anymore.
hobby getting more folks I think, you don’t need to spend 1500.00 on a machine, I see know point unless you learn how to use it. Yes as any hobby gets larger they want to regul it like drone flyers. Unbelievable we aren’t digging graves, and frankly I will detect anyone’s property and gladly show them what’s just a few inches underneath there feet for years. So the hobby needs to learn more, study more because like I said the easy stuff has been found, now technology lets us go a little deeper and seperat is better. Folks you must go slow and in doubt dig it.

I think as a recreational hobby it will never really end, but as a relic and old coin hobby it's probably got another 50 years or so before most every place that could be hunted will be hunted..
Obviously there will ALWAYS be something old left somewhere, and nobody will ever find it all, but you can't buy a better machine to find something that is not there anymore... so is it logical to pay $1500 for a "NEW top of the line bells and whistles machine" for a few unplucked wheat pennies that have been missed ? I think not....

 

[Jollyrodger1]

Very good points, what we appreciate as old colonial and earlier things that we are hope to find, are long gone as far as detection a foot or so deep, talking detector terms, this is much different than items hidden in the depths, cave inside trees or elsewhere, old items are still the best, it makes you appreciate what the situation was and the titanic struggles these real people had, again it wasn’t long ago , what 3 generations.