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I found next to close to a house built in 1850. What type of metal is it repo old or real old. Why is it mushed at the end flat? The handle is stuck how wouldve the handle worked? Sorry its blurry friends how was this put on a house? :/ : / : ) . 20210114_023604.webp20210114_023624.webp20210114_023718.webp20210114_023728.webp20210114_023740.webp20210114_023752.webp20210114_023808.webp20210114_024229.webp20210114_024257.webp20210114_024328.webp
 

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Although this looks like a "barrel tap"... I think this is just an old valve.
 

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The handle and the stem are connected. The stem has a through hole, so when the handle turns it aligns a clear passage for fluid between the pipe and the spout.
 

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You know Pepper... I have seen many times over the years these in various forms IE: "Taps"... misidentified... when in actuality they are nothing more than a random plumbing valve... or spigot more so.

For example...

Here is one that is identified... sold even... as a "keg / barrel tap... BY WorthPoint.

When in actuality it is physically impossible to tap anything with this... unless the "shaft" "spout" "tap itself"... or whatever ya wanna call it for I do not know the proper term... has been greatly cut off / down... this could / would be the ONLY exception.

Wanan know why ? ? ?

You tell me... what is wrong with this situation / item that makes this impossible to be a tap. ? ? ?

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ANSWER = Simple... once "Tapped"... no way to turn it "on" or "off" for that matter... DUE TO "clearance" of handle VIA the side of anything "tapped".

Heh.
 

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I see that right off the bat, and would say it was cut to clean up the break.
Then again the taper of the pipe says barrel tap over a sink tap.
There must be a ref. date/schedule for barrel taps someplace......

The OP photo it also looks tapered, and in the #7 photo looks like there's a bit of a lip.

The early household plumbing I have dug are similar looking valves, but I haven't a clue where in the storage they'd be right now to have gander, the old hard drives have pics probably.
 

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It looks like would have been on the fuel oil tank out side. Kerosene tank. Sat beside house and line fed stove.
 

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You know Pepper... I have seen many times over the years these in various forms IE: "Taps"... misidentified... when in actuality they are nothing more than a random plumbing valve... or spigot more so.

For example...

Here is one that is identified... sold even... as a "keg / barrel tap... BY WorthPoint.

When in actuality it is physically impossible to tap anything with this... unless the "shaft" "spout" "tap itself"... or whatever ya wanna call it for I do not know the proper term... has been greatly cut off / down... this could / would be the ONLY exception.

Wanan know why ? ? ?

You tell me... what is wrong with this situation / item that makes this impossible to be a tap. ? ? ?

View attachment 1893586


ANSWER = Simple... once "Tapped"... no way to turn it "on" or "off" for that matter... DUE TO "clearance" of handle VIA the side of anything "tapped".

Heh.

The one you saw on Worthpoint is a barrel tap due to taper fit for a wooden vessel, and it's 90 degree spout. However, it is displayed wrong, meaning the handle can spin 360 degrees, and they have it 180 out. The much later machinery/automotive drain valves and petcocks do have a stop that prevents a 360 handle rotation.
 

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You know Pepper... I have seen many times over the years these in various forms IE: "Taps"... misidentified... when in actuality they are nothing more than a random plumbing valve... or spigot more so.

For example...

Here is one that is identified... sold even... as a "keg / barrel tap... BY WorthPoint.

When in actuality it is physically impossible to tap anything with this... unless the "shaft" "spout" "tap itself"... or whatever ya wanna call it for I do not know the proper term... has been greatly cut off / down... this could / would be the ONLY exception.

Wanan know why ? ? ?

You tell me... what is wrong with this situation / item that makes this impossible to be a tap. ? ? ?


ANSWER = Simple... once "Tapped"... no way to turn it "on" or "off" for that matter... DUE TO "clearance" of handle VIA the side of anything "tapped".

Heh.

I would agree if it were a modern spigot. Old taps don't require more than a 90 degree turn of the handle to open and close the spout. Therefore, clearance to rotate the handle more than 90 degrees is not required.

Parts-of-a-tap.webp

Sorry for the "take no prisoners" reply but I think we need to be as precise as we can be on this forum.

EDIT: I see that CTWoods can type faster than me...
 

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cite an example of OP's find then.
 

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Oh and before I forget... I will add that I was the first to respond to this thread... in which I simpy stated barrel tap... then deleted it.

Bowinkles then posted it.

I then reposted with opinion I stated.
 

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You know Pepper... I have seen many times over the years these in various forms IE: "Taps"... misidentified... when in actuality they are nothing more than a random plumbing valve... or spigot more so.

For example...

Here is one that is identified... sold even... as a "keg / barrel tap... BY WorthPoint.

When in actuality it is physically impossible to tap anything with this... unless the "shaft" "spout" "tap itself"... or whatever ya wanna call it for I do not know the proper term... has been greatly cut off / down... this could / would be the ONLY exception.

Wanan know why ? ? ?

You tell me... what is wrong with this situation / item that makes this impossible to be a tap. ? ? ?

View attachment 1893586


ANSWER = Simple... once "Tapped"... no way to turn it "on" or "off" for that matter... DUE TO "clearance" of handle VIA the side of anything "tapped".

Heh.
I think the handle can rotate 360 degrees, in which case it could be a functioning item
 

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I think you guys should really LOOK at the OP's item.
 

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Here is the closet example of the OP's item I can find so far...

Someone post better.

and don't forget to be "precise". heh

Spigot.webp
 

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No "barrel" involved with this.

"Tap" related... but in a 1910-on sorta way... used in multiple applications... as well as in soda and beer fountains.

Similar... but not limited to... this.

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