What Is The Button

[Bubba65]

Hi all, I had posted this button awhile ago and there was no confirmed id on what it was. I have some new better pics at least I think. So I thought to see if anyone has an idea with these new pics. Thanks for your help and thanks for looking.

Bubba65

 

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[Iron Patch]

Yep, I remember it well. Hope you have better luck this time but my gut feeling is the best you'll ever do is maybe find a match, but still not an ID.

 

[Bramblefind]

I know this button is not the same but it reminded me in some aspects of your's so I thought I would pass it along. Perhaps your button is a precursor of the style? This is from the Albert book pg 209 NY72 It reads:

New York, Tompkins Blues(?) Brooklyn; 2-piece with border and inner circle of rope.

A. A female with fasces, on a lined field. "W.B. Co./Waterbury" rmdc. RV5

 

[Iron Patch]

I know this button is not the same but it reminded me in some aspects of your's so I thought I would pass it along. Perhaps your button is a precursor of the style? This is from the Albert book pg 209 NY72 It reads:

New York, Tompkins Blues(?) Brooklyn; 2-piece with border and inner circle of rope.

A. A female with fasces, on a lined field. "W.B. Co./Waterbury" rmdc. RV5

Hmmmm..... that might be it! Well not quite, but might be the hint I needed. See if anyone agrees.


I think it's a peace/friendship button. It's Britannia binding up the broken fasces which represents the friendship between Britan and the Colonies. Or, could be Loyalist and Britan dating around the Revolution.

 

[Bubba65]

Thanks all for looking and trying to help. I guess this one will remain a mystery. I have tried and can't find nothing myself. Again thanks.

Bubba65

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks all for looking and trying to help. I guess this one will remain a mystery. I have tried and can't find nothing myself. Again thanks.

Bubba65

That's because you're looking along the lines of finding a picture in a book and there's no way every button from Colonial to present can be documented. For that reason the ID you have to accept is what is the idea the button is based on. I gave you my thoughts of what the symbol means, and it's the path you have to follow for an ID, not making a match. If someday you you come across one that says what it is then cool, but like many other Colonial finds the ID is nothing more than what makes the most sense.

 

[Bubba65]

Thanks IP and that is the path I have and will be taking more. Might never know the real id but any idea is better then no idea which you and the others have given again thanks again.

Bubba65

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks IP and that is the path I have and will be taking more. Might never know the real id but any idea is better then no idea which you and the others have given again thanks again.

Bubba65

In a way it reminds me of the cufflink button I sound with the soldier on it. I know I'll never find out who made it, when or where, but I have a very good idea of the time frame, and considering there was one early military button found close it tends to point at it being his. Will never be able to say for sure but I'm happy with that amount of info. and consider it solved.

I think your button is a very interesting find and do think it represets what I said a couple posts above. There's not a chic with an axe just because it was something neat, it has meaning... got to.

 

[Bramblefind]

I wondering why Albert put the "(?)" next to the description of the button I posted. I think it is b/c he was making a guess based on the emblem of the City of Brooklyn -

The Dutch language motto is Een Draght Mackt Maght, after that of the United Dutch Provinces, usually translated as In Unity, There is Strength. The motto is displayed on the civic seal and flag, which also feature a young robed woman bearing fasces, a traditional emblem of republicanism.