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Jyverb64

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Found this in a corn field where a house was until 1870's the item is on the left in the pictures, I found the LC and the buckle within a few feet of it. IMAG0171.jpgIMAG0173.jpg
 

I am probably wrong but the first thing that comes to mind is that it is a holder for a ramrod.
 

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The item on the left is a cast guide for a musket-it was one of several which held the ramrod. From the manufacture, probably late 18th century. On the right is a much more recent suspender buckle piece.
 

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I still do not beleive those had anything to do with suspenders....I do know for fact they were on the backs of Pre C.W. pants

As said,the other is a Ram rod Channel/guide
 

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My TN friend Kuger... no offense intended, but there were different buckles for suspenders-straps, for garter-straps, and for pants waist-adjustment straps. What those straps have in common is that they were made of cloth/fabric, not leather. So, the buckles for them don't have the typical leather buckle's tongue. A primary difference between each of those types of cloth/fabric straps is their comparative width ...and thus, their buckle's width. Suspenders-straps were wide, usually at least 1.5 inches, so that they wouldn't cut into your shoulder). Pants waist-adjuster straps were comparatively narrow, usually a bit less than 1-inch.

My point is, comparing the size of Jyverb64's sharp-toothed buckle with the US large-cent in the photo, the buckle appears to be the appropriate width for use on suspenders-straps.
 

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Thanks C.B.....good use of my pics!Glad you put em back up...I didnt want to go look for them :laughing7: Points all made and taken.Why do we never dig a pair of these buckles together,if they were indeed suspender buckles?Not arguing your info....just thinking out loud :icon_thumright:
 

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Thanks for the info guys
 

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Brown_Bess_Entry_Pipe.JPGThat is actually called a "ramrod entry thimble," which is inlet into the stock where the ramrod enters the wood. The small finial and the shortness overall makes me think it's for a pistol, but that's just my thoughts, no proof. The photo shows the entry thimble on a Brown Bess musket. The others on the gun are either one more on a pistol, or two more on a rifle, and those don't have finials, and are called "ramrod pipes."
 

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Awesome find. I never stop learning stuff on these threads!
Nick
 

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