what in the world are these extra smooth rocks????

larson1951

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This is half of what my friend bought at an auction sale 4 yrs ago
he paid 100 bucks for all of them and then sold me half of them
he had a couple really nice big black ones
in the 1rst picture the one with the dime on it is very soft
this soft one is also shown on image #'s 4 and 5
all the rest are very hard material with several of them being granite
they show no signs whatsoever of any use like hammering, pounding, or grinding
my friend said the people with the auction had a 2 gallon pail of KRF points that sold for 300 bucks
I wish I would have been there

Now can anyone tell me what these could be?
 

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looks like rivercreek rolled rocks to me, any signs of usewear could indicate hammerstone. 100 bucks!? tell him I got thousands, cheap too, 50 bucks. lol
 

the granite rocks are for sure shaped and polished as granite does not come that way
the other hard stone rocks are probably river creek rocks but they did not get up on a flat field by themselves for sure
they must have been brought to a village site for some type of use
my question is what were they used for ?
my point is they are for sure not indigenous to the area they were found
 

Hammer stones???? Well, since you didn't find them it's hard to say. You could tell if there was use by the wear in the area it was struck across other rocks. they could have been used to smooth hides maybe. It's up in the air, but they are strikingly smooth though.
 

hi Abarnard, if you note my my first post on line #7:

they show no signs whatsoever of any use like hammering, pounding, or grinding

these stones are about 60% granite which can not come from a stream bed
the granite rocks are never polished from running water like this
now the other ones of the hard stones show no signs of use other than polishing
one thing has been brought up to my friend and I were that they could have been used for burnishing hides
this is what your thoughts are also and I am tending to side with you and I am tending to agree with you now more than ever
 

One can go to the southern coast of Maine and fill a dump truck with smooth round/oval rocks that are similar. The cold rocky rivers and streams of Northern New England are filled with the beautiful granite orbs.

Nice material! I plan to get some more for the rock garden when I get back to Maine this summer.

Thanks for showing us!

HH
 

Larson
I am not sure how you lay geographically but where I am at, there are many valleys and mtns. At one time when all this land was draining from being under water and glacial flows we were a solid creek bed.You can dig down so far in any of our field almost and find solid creek beds with all round polished rocks same as what we find in our cut out creeks. I am sure prehistoric man enjoyed using the pretty well polished and round creek rocks as well and carried them into his camp as stated above, Does it make it an artifact ? Not unless the rocks off a mountain stone home of today is an artifact in 500 years. To be an artifact it needs to show purpose in my humble opinion. Do you know if your area had glacial ice at one time? Might explain the beautiful polished rock. Nice post .Take care.
TnMountains
 

I grew up on a farm by Java South Dakota
I picked rocks for my grandpa since I was 8 yrs old until I was a teenager
I worked on other farms and and picked more rocks, tons of them every year until I was 40 years old
both in North and south dakota
and I have never once seen granite polished like this, some with highly polished areas
these are not from the east coast, they were found in a village site by fort yates north dakota
these were brought to the site for some reason and if you saw the rest of these
you would quit telling me these are the same as something 1500 miles away
Quito would tell you that these are for a purpose and are not natural to a village site
I still think they were for burnishing buffalo and elk hides
they are not for holding down teepee covers because the indians here were farmers and they lived in earth lodges
 

Larson, I find an occasional polished piece of that black and white speckled rock too, and they are that way because the natives worked them into shape. I can't say about all those rocks in the pic, but the black and white as in your pics my bet is artifact.

I know what you are talking about.
 

Quito, I knew you would agree but I do understand the other comments, it's just that they don't apply to this
 

larson1951 said:
I grew up on a farm by Java South Dakota
I picked rocks for my grandpa since I was 8 yrs old until I was a teenager
I worked on other farms and and picked more rocks, tons of them every year until I was 40 years old
both in North and south dakota
and I have never once seen granite polished like this, some with highly polished areas
these are not from the east coast, they were found in a village site by fort yates north dakota
these were brought to the site for some reason and if you saw the rest of these
you would quit telling me these are the same as something 1500 miles away
Quito would tell you that these are for a purpose and are not natural to a village site
I still think they were for burnishing buffalo and elk hides
they are not for holding down teepee covers because the indians here were farmers and they lived in earth lodges

I live in southwest North Dakota and I can show you teepee rings all over, but the stones they
used don't look like that. The Native Americans here used teepees a lot, even if they weren't
their permanent dwelling.

I have seen those polished rocks in creeks and rivers, I believe they are
river polished or glacial runoff polished.
Just north of Fort Yates is the Cannonball river, so named
because the rocks are river rolled to an almost perfect round shape.
Granted those rocks are softer sandstone type material but
if it happens there I would think it could happen other places,
with other kinds of material. But I could be dead wrong.
They could all be hand polished by Native Americans for some reason.
 

pronghorn, how big are the teepee rings
any chance of you posting a few pictures of them???
 

Afternoon,

Here is a possibility.....not saying that is what they are, but if found them here in Louisiana a place where such rock doesn't exist naturally those would be called "ballast stones" Here on barges and paddlewheelers that ran the rivers, they were used as ballast and cast off when not needed. You can find piles of them in certain areas....also singles. Just a thought, it might not apply to your area at all. :wink:

HH,

Atlantis
 

pronghorn said:
I have seen those polished rocks in creeks and rivers, I believe they are
river polished or glacial runoff polished.
Just north of Fort Yates is the Cannonball river, so named
because the rocks are river rolled to an almost perfect round shape.
Granted those rocks are softer sandstone type material but
if it happens there I would think it could happen other places,
with other kinds of material. But I could be dead wrong.
They could all be hand polished by Native Americans for some reason.

I agree with this idea Pronghorn,


After the high water goes down a fellow can walk the river and pick up as many stones like that as you would want.
 

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