BuffaloBob
Bronze Member
- Jan 6, 2005
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- Detector(s) used
- Minelab X-Terra 705 Gold Coil
deteknixXpointer Probe
Minelab Ex-Terra 70
White's Classic II
2014-2015 Colorado Gold Camp Prospector
- Primary Interest:
- Metal Detecting
Again the questions about what is appropriate on this forum.
Generally I think most people agree that Phychics, Mediums and Paranormal discussions are based mostly on belief rather than hard scientific evidence. Used to be only remotely feasible and practiced by many fakers for personal gain. Fringe science. Hard to reproduce experiments. Personal belief systems can also affect outcomes. Searchers tend to find what they are looking for. To either prove or disprove some theory.
Does Dowsing really work? Well yes and no. I think it depends on the intentions of the dowser. It is easier to reinforce a personal bias like I knew it wouldn't work than open our minds to new discoveries. Maybe have to reform our opinions or beliefs about how the world works. Do successful detectorists have better equipment to find things we pass over? Map dowers? Never ending pros and cons about the person versus the equipment.
On T-Net detectors forums we express our faith in particular coils, detectors, special tuning programs, and secrets of our successes. On and on. Does it really matter to you? The posts involve us in the hunt. Yeah... we've been there and understand. Could be a bad coil- maybe an untrained user? We've all been there.
What we want to read is Real Truth. After reading and posting questions ourselves we agree that it "depends". Tell us what you are searching for. Where - in water, rock, sidewalks, parks, ancient cities.. Well most new users don't know. "Give my your best idea". WE usually describe the equipment we are familiar with. Not every option because every option "depends" on lots of unknowns. That's the fun we have. The Search.
IMHO Phychics, Mediums and Paranormal discussions are the same. What is the test of Truth? Even physics Einstein understood has changed. There are experiments and results. Depending on what you are looking for usually determines the result. Yes or NO would be great. Hardly ever is though. Everything depends on other things. And things we don't fully understand, like Phychics, Mediums and Paranormal discussions are the same.
Does it work? Can someone tell the future? Well if they predict events prior to them happening, could be. Need more proof. In the end searching on this special forum is like our Treasure Hunting Hobby. We "feel" it's out there. Just "know" it's nearby. And when our suppositions pan out, we were right! Maybe you share that on T-Net or not. Depends.
We are always searching. And for most of us the Hunt is most rewarding. A nice find can keep the equipment updated but new friends, new areas, new techniques are why we keep going. How many of us could live on our detecting finds or would want to sell them to begin with.
BB
Generally I think most people agree that Phychics, Mediums and Paranormal discussions are based mostly on belief rather than hard scientific evidence. Used to be only remotely feasible and practiced by many fakers for personal gain. Fringe science. Hard to reproduce experiments. Personal belief systems can also affect outcomes. Searchers tend to find what they are looking for. To either prove or disprove some theory.
Does Dowsing really work? Well yes and no. I think it depends on the intentions of the dowser. It is easier to reinforce a personal bias like I knew it wouldn't work than open our minds to new discoveries. Maybe have to reform our opinions or beliefs about how the world works. Do successful detectorists have better equipment to find things we pass over? Map dowers? Never ending pros and cons about the person versus the equipment.
On T-Net detectors forums we express our faith in particular coils, detectors, special tuning programs, and secrets of our successes. On and on. Does it really matter to you? The posts involve us in the hunt. Yeah... we've been there and understand. Could be a bad coil- maybe an untrained user? We've all been there.
What we want to read is Real Truth. After reading and posting questions ourselves we agree that it "depends". Tell us what you are searching for. Where - in water, rock, sidewalks, parks, ancient cities.. Well most new users don't know. "Give my your best idea". WE usually describe the equipment we are familiar with. Not every option because every option "depends" on lots of unknowns. That's the fun we have. The Search.
IMHO Phychics, Mediums and Paranormal discussions are the same. What is the test of Truth? Even physics Einstein understood has changed. There are experiments and results. Depending on what you are looking for usually determines the result. Yes or NO would be great. Hardly ever is though. Everything depends on other things. And things we don't fully understand, like Phychics, Mediums and Paranormal discussions are the same.
Does it work? Can someone tell the future? Well if they predict events prior to them happening, could be. Need more proof. In the end searching on this special forum is like our Treasure Hunting Hobby. We "feel" it's out there. Just "know" it's nearby. And when our suppositions pan out, we were right! Maybe you share that on T-Net or not. Depends.
We are always searching. And for most of us the Hunt is most rewarding. A nice find can keep the equipment updated but new friends, new areas, new techniques are why we keep going. How many of us could live on our detecting finds or would want to sell them to begin with.
BB
Metaphysical and psychic phenomena have long existed on the fringes of conventional science and academia. ESP, Clairvoyance, Telekinesis and Astral traveling have all been relegated to the back seat of mainstream, accepted belief systems in spite of an extensive mention of these practices down the ages, across myriad cultures. It has always been challenging for practitioners of the science to be validated by the prevailing status quo.
That however changed in 1995 when the CIA declassified a top secret program that had been training individuals in the esoteric science of 'Remote Viewing' in which, it was claimed, people were able to envision ongoing activities in distant places and future events.
Although reminiscent of a Sci-Fi yarn, Remote viewing was tested and deployed under rigorous scientific conditions to obtain data about foreign espionage activities, counter terrorism efforts, secret military bases abroad and hidden missiles. It recognized the inherent psychic potential in humans and attempted to harness these special faculties or 'powers' for the purposes of intelligence gathering, often of a vital nature.
The initial testing was done at the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) where extensive investigations were carried out into the human mind's capacity to transcend all bounds of time and space. SRI's research was supported by the CIA and other government agencies for over two decades.
Russell Targ, Hal Puthoff and Ingo Swann were the original founders of this once-secret program. Their task was to learn to understand psychic abilities, and to use these abilities to gather information about the Soviet Union during the Cold War. They found from years of experience that people can quickly learn to do remote viewing, and can frequently incorporate this direct knowing of the world -- both present and future -- into their lives.
They were the original 'Psi Spies' named after the title of Jim Marrs' exhaustive study of the phenomenon. The project produced some remarkable results. Among them were detailed renderings of secret Soviet bases, the whereabouts of Red Brigade terrorism hostages in Italy, location of victims in the Israeli hostage crisis, locations of Scud missiles during the first Gulf War and even the impending attack on the Twin Towers in NY! (done by a private contractor and ignored until after the event). The program eventually came to be called 'Operation Stargate'.
Perception determines “truth.” We invent our own reality through our own perceptions and others’, and by accepting what appears to be real as real. History is filled with stories of people who, in “slipping between the cracks” of their own consciousness (thus altering how they perceived the world around them) uncovered different ways to experience reality. What they accomplished in doing this made an impact on society. You and I, all of us, have profited again and again because this happened.
Chester F. Carlson, for example, inventor of the Xerox duplication process and founder of the Xerox Corporation, was a devotee of a certain trance medium who channelled spirit beings. While attending a series of sessions with the woman, he eventually “received” the photocopy process from the spirit beings she contacted. After experimenting with the technique and making a few adjustments, the Xerox process was born, along with a multi-billion-dollar company.
George Washington Carver took the peanut, until then used as hog food, and the exotic and neglected sweet potato, and turned them into hundreds of products, including cosmetics, grease, printer’s ink, coffee, and peanut butter. Carver said he got his answers by walking in the woods at four in the morning. “Nature is the greatest teacher and I learn from her best when others are asleep,” he said. “In the still hours before sunrise, God tells me of the plans I am to fulfill.” How did George Washington Carver communicate with God during the wee hours of morning? He said it himself – through the assistance of angels and fairies. And he isn’t the only one to make such a claim.
Parapsychology is full of anecdotal accounts of strange occurrences, which cause many people to simply shake their heads in disbelief.[SUP]1[/SUP] The phenomena of parapsychology grade into the mysteries and miracles that are the boon and bane of much religion. After all, to use a Christian example (and in no way am I making a statement about Christianity per se), not only can Jesus and the saints perform miracles, but so can Satan and his cohorts!