Well? What are they?

[wildrider]

OK.

Here is a link showing some stuff from a Civil War site. I was telling Buckleboy about the fasteners and I just ran across the frame that they were in.

Feel free to post opinions of what you think they are.

PLEASE READ THE POST and look at the way the fasteners would have to be situated on clothing (?)to make functional.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,124069.new.html#new

Thanks!

Burt

 

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[willie d]

Maybe off of an old steamer trunk?

 

[cosmic]

Looks like boot buckles

 

[Ant]

Yeap, mickey mouse boot buckle (military rain boot) or raincoat.

 

[Montana Jim]

yea - raincoat or boot fastener...

I just took this picture - it's one of the most commen fasteners...

 

[Ant]

Just a little flatter :

 

[wildrider]

The thing is....I don't recall CW soldiers having rubber boots or leather boots with buckles.

This site yielded NO, ZIP, NADA, Nothing from any other period besides the CW.

Also, by the way the initials are on the buckles, it would seem they would have to be situated as from the direction the foto was taken, in an up and down motion.

Otherwise, (as if on boots) the lettering would be sideways.

And as I mentioned, the black stuff is oilcloth or leather not rubber and plastic wasn't invented yet. So, I question galoshes. (That was my first thought too when I first found them).

 

[Ant]

My guess is that they fastened a weatherproof pouch, envelope, accordion satchel or something along those lines.

 

[Montana Jim]

My guess is that they fastened a weatherproof pouch, envelope, accordion satchel or something along those lines.

Yea... thats a great call Ant... very well could be.

The thing is....I don't recall CW soldiers having rubber boots or leather boots with buckles.

So - it's impossible that they they were lost after the CW?

I like the satchel idea alot.

 

[wildrider]

So - it's impossible that they they were lost after the CW?

Nothing is impossible. Just interesting that nothing else has been found there that was post CW.
Most of the area around this particular site are some of the earliest settlements in Kentucky.

It's nots uncommon to find reales and flat buttons and alot of hand forged iron. I know of 2 GW Inaugural buttons that came from a site less than 1/4 mile away.

I'm not stuck on the idea they are CW, they could be more modern.

 

[downindixie]

Doesn't HMS stand for "Her Majesty's Service"?

 

[Montana Jim]

Doesn't HMS stand for "Her Majesty's Service"?

Yes.

Also... His or Her Majesty's Ship (HMS) is the title used for ships of the navy in some monarchies, either formally or informally.

 

[Baldingboy]

Wildrider,
I was researching your item and found this:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4007537.html

Inventor:Silverbush, Herbert M. (Providence, RI) Before proceeding with a description of the apparatus used in performing registration, a clearer description of the problem to be solved is believed to be warranted.

Referring to FIG. 1A, there is shown a top view of a fastener 10 including the arbitrary initials HMS. It being understood that the surface shown of the fastener 10 may have imprinted thereon any other logo, name or trademark relating to a particular entity.



It's a start. See if what you think.

 

[Montana Jim]

Wildrider,
I was researching your item and found this:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4007537.html

Inventor:Silverbush, Herbert M. (Providence, RI) Before proceeding with a description of the apparatus used in performing registration, a clearer description of the problem to be solved is believed to be warranted.

Referring to FIG. 1A, there is shown a top view of a fastener 10 including the arbitrary initials HMS. It being understood that the surface shown of the fastener 10 may have imprinted thereon any other logo, name or trademark relating to a particular entity.

It's a start. See if what you think.

Maybe...

But I looked at all the drawings at the patent office web site, and it's describing the machine used to attach and fasten snap buttons more than enything else... :P

 

[Baldingboy]

Wildrider,
I was researching your item and found this:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4007537.html

Inventor:Silverbush, Herbert M. (Providence, RI) Before proceeding with a description of the apparatus used in performing registration, a clearer description of the problem to be solved is believed to be warranted.

Referring to FIG. 1A, there is shown a top view of a fastener 10 including the arbitrary initials HMS. It being understood that the surface shown of the fastener 10 may have imprinted thereon any other logo, name or trademark relating to a particular entity.

It's a start. See if what you think.

Maybe...

But I looked at all the drawings at the patent office web site, and it's describing the machine used to attach and fasten snap buttons more than enything else... :P

Perhaps this was something that bore his initials since he was in the fastener/machining business. Just a guess. Good research.

Baldingboy

 

[Montana Jim]

Wildrider,
I was researching your item and found this:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4007537.html

Inventor:Silverbush, Herbert M. (Providence, RI) Before proceeding with a description of the apparatus used in performing registration, a clearer description of the problem to be solved is believed to be warranted.

Referring to FIG. 1A, there is shown a top view of a fastener 10 including the arbitrary initials HMS. It being understood that the surface shown of the fastener 10 may have imprinted thereon any other logo, name or trademark relating to a particular entity.

It's a start. See if what you think.

Maybe...

But I looked at all the drawings at the patent office web site, and it's describing the machine used to attach and fasten snap buttons more than enything else... :P

Perhaps this was something that bore his initials since he was in the fastener/machining business. Just a guess. Good research.

Baldingboy

There is every chance, Baldingboy - that you are 100 percent correct