Vision 3030 MD

Aren't the Treasure Hunters made in China ? Go with the well known manufacturers. If you get some odd ball brand, you will very likely be buying a new machine a few months later, or giving up completely out of frustration.
 

Although I have nothing but Respect for China
& their Products. Unless I was Desperate,
& willing to throw it away, if it breaks.
I would stick to something with a Repair
service within the U.S.

I wouldn't own a MINELAB if I had to send it to Austrailia
for Warranty Service.
 

I've sent personal messages to people who purchased these Chinese made detectors and I have yet to get back a negative reply form someone who actually purchased one. Those nasty negative reviews online could be staged by dealers and other entities.

I was once very much interested in the "Viper" (made in China sold under various names) waterproof detector and all the bid winners off ebay who responded to my PM said they loved it.

But like Jeff wrote above, warrentee is very important. If something were to go wrong with a Chinese machine it's a throwaway.

I purchased a $60 Chinese machine several years ago off ebay and in a coin garden test it will match a Minelab Excalibur for depth and it's much easier than the Minelab to understand. In fact this machine can duplicate the Tesoro nail/coin trick. As I recall it was $50 plus $10 shipping and it can match a $1000 machine!

The biggest problem I've found with my Chinese machine is not with the detector but with me. Since it's cheap I psychologically can't believe in it. The mind is at least 60% of the treasure hunting game.

Like the others wrote, I recommend the Ace over the Chinese product mainly for warrentee and state of mind.

But, like I've written many times here and elsewhere, it's just a matter of time and China will rule the detector industry. Have you ever noticed how much the latest and greatest detectors are looking more and more like the Chinese products? Very little has to be done in a country for a product to be labeled "Made In ________."

Badger
 

Michigan Badger said:
I've sent personal messages to people who purchased these Chinese made detectors and I have yet to get back a negative reply form someone who actually purchased one. Those nasty negative reviews online could be staged by dealers and other entities.

I was once very much interested in the "Viper" (made in China sold under various names) waterproof detector and all the bid winners off ebay who responded to my PM said they loved it.

But like Jeff wrote above, warrentee is very important. If something were to go wrong with a Chinese machine it's a throwaway.

I purchased a $60 Chinese machine several years ago off ebay and in a coin garden test it will match a Minelab Excalibur for depth and it's much easier than the Minelab to understand. In fact this machine can duplicate the Tesoro nail/coin trick. As I recall it was $50 plus $10 shipping and it can match a $1000 machine!

The biggest problem I've found with my Chinese machine is not with the detector but with me. Since it's cheap I psychologically can't believe in it. The mind is at least 60% of the treasure hunting game.

Like the others wrote, I recommend the Ace over the Chinese product mainly for warrentee and state of mind.

But, like I've written many times here and elsewhere, it's just a matter of time and China will rule the detector industry. Have you ever noticed how much the latest and greatest detectors are looking more and more like the Chinese products? Very little has to be done in a country for a product to be labeled "Made In ________."

Badger[/QUOTE I have one and it is a (VERY) capable machine! It has a surface 'blanker' that (SKILLFULLY) eliminates almost (all) surface trash down to around 3-4" (WITH THE DISC. KNOB SET TO MAX, NO LESS) yet (STILL) finds the deeper nickels, deep thin gold items, and gold nuggets (WHILE) (still) eliminating aluminum pull tabs (the coinhunter's arch enemy) within 3-4" of the coil. Build quality was a little less than average compared to most American, Australian or European detectors but not a major issue with this brand/model. Actually this model was built quite solid and like a tank (almost identical to the build quality of the old Fisher X-Series detectors 1984-1993 +/-). The weight of this machine bears that out to be true. The (only) problem I've had is where the lower stem mates to the upper stem. The lower stem is a little too narrow and had to be wrapped at the top end with a turn or two of electrical tape to make it connect to the upper stem tighter. This model unfortunately, is no longer in production and the MP company went to making the LCD-screen type MD's (and still does to date) because of their increasing popularity with the general public. They are sold through Kellyco in the U.S. Unfortunately digital does not necessarily equal better (or) even deeper as those who know what I'm talking about are probably aware but a misled public wants digital because that's a lot of what's set before them and more so now, their only choice so that's what they get. Too bad the rest of us who know better, have to either 'get on board' with the digital crowd or buy our manual turn-knob detectors used. (Some) brands (still do) make turn-knob models fortunately though. Misinformation, high-pressured advertising, and/or ignorance, sells for the most part and this is unfortunate. Not many improvement have been made in performance or versatility though, unless you buy the much more expensive Fisher/Teknetics, Minelabs, Nexus, etc.
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Michigan badger how far away are you from me
i'm in the u.P. that's up north from up north
 

I have one called Treasure Hunter 3030. It works pretty good but the only problem I have is with mine I have to use headphones to hear it. It works almost as good as my Ace250. Great beginner detector.
 

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