✅ SOLVED Victor, Pat. July 4, 88 .. I have no ideas? (Unsolvable I Guess?)

[creskol]

Victor, Pat. July 4, 88 .. I have no ideas? (NICE ID! a knife sheath snap))

These three photos are done under a 30x loop. The face of this is only 12 mm in diameter (15/32 of an inch) and looks like there may have had something on it, but I can't make out what it was. The back only measures 8.5 mm (21/64 of an inch) The total thickness is 8.5 mm as well.
I am assuming that it is a pants rivet or belt rivet, but have never seen one quite like this one. Has anybody ever seen one like this before?

 

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[IronSpike]

What's up with the green check I searched but couldn't find the patent. Maybe it's a foreign pattern

 

[DCMatt]

It looks like a strap button off bid overalls.

DCMatt

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

What's up with the green check I searched but couldn't find the patent. Maybe it's a foreign pattern

I also searched 1888 patents for buttons, clothing, clasps, lamps, etc all in vain. I was glad to see the green check but please tell us what it is, what kind of company is Victor and how it was solved. Thanks.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I found a button patent for July 24, 1888. Im thinking its either not a button or the patent is not listed. Victor makes welding equipment but they are not that old. What about Victor Talking Machine? I dont even think Victor Clothing Co is old enough. http://morrisoncountyhistory.org/?p=2175
Victor Patents Safe? Victor Lamp?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

A further search reveals that there were no patents on July 4, 1888 which I would imagine was a major hoilday in the USA.. There were however several patents on July 4 1882. http://www.google.com/patents?q=++"july+4+1888"&btnG=Search+Patents

This is a tough one indeed and I cant wait to hear the answer. Is it ferrous or brass? Its so small it would seem likely to be a clothing fastener rivet but it could also be some sort of restrictor plug or something we havent thought of.

Where was it found? Any other clues?

 

[sagittarius98]

Maybe it's not unsolvable and someone (not me) can help you.

 

[DeerStalker]

I'd say it's the end rivet that hooked to the chain on a Victor trap. Possibly a foothold trap for fox or coyote.

 

[dg39]

Perhaps looking in the direction of Victor Talking or record machines, like BC said? Just a wild guess.
DG

 

[vhs07]

Victor also made postal scales around that time. A similar looking item can be seen on the needle below:

Your last photo looks like something like iron rusted away in the groove, of maybe leather that rotted away.
But, as I looked at your first picture, I believe I can see an animal of sorts. If that's the case, it wouldn't be from a scale, but rather sporting related.
Just thinking aloud.

 

[Bramblefind]

This might be something... this ad for a knife and case it says the snap on the case reads: VICTOR PAT. JULY 4 99 - maybe the person who wrote this is mistaking 8s and 9s. The What Is It item does seem to look somewhat like that snap:

VINTAGE KNIFE MARBLES (05/01/2011)

 

[creskol]

This might be something... this ad for a knife and case it says the snap on the case reads: VICTOR PAT. JULY 4 99 - maybe the person who wrote this is mistaking 8s and 9s. The What Is It item does seem to look somewhat like that snap:

VINTAGE KNIFE MARBLES (05/01/2011)

WoW.. That does look like a great possibility! I'll bet that is exactly what it is. Thanks!

 

[Breezie]

Nice ID Bramble! Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I see the old gang is back. Patent US628203 - FASTENING DEVICE - Google Patents]

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

July 4 has only been a federal holiday since 1941 and that explains why there were so many patents granted on that day in 1899. July 4th — History.com Articles, Video, Pictures and Facts