✅ SOLVED Very old plaque - Any ideas?

[PaddyB]

I hope you can help with this plaque that I picked up today in a box of old coins.


The legend appears to read: "Andreas Crispus Patavinus A?r T M D Ant Candelabrus" or something similar.

I found this mention of Andrea Crispus on wikipedia which seems to fit, but I am sure this plaque is not 16th century, so what does it relate to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Riccio

 

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[nhbenz]

Hmm, this seems to mention this medal (page 123 if it doesn't automatically go there): https://books.google.com/books?id=d...e&q="Andreas Crispus Patavinus" medal&f=false

 

[PaddyB]

That certainly looks to refer to a similar medal - but the extract cuts off half way through - very frustrating!

I get "puts it on the medal ascribed to him "Andreas...." and then the next line I get the tops of the letters only. Are you seeing more? Does the site require a login to view the full article?

 

[Mackaydon]

Just the picture of the object:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre..._andrea_briosco_detto_il_riccio,_1532_ca..JPG
Don......

 

[PaddyB]

That's brilliant - thanks Don! I still feel mine must be a 19th century copy. I can't be lucky enough to pick up an original 16th century medal!

 

[mcl]

Is it just me, or is yours made out of something other than bronze, as described in the book/shown in the picture on Wiki? It looks almost like lead (unless that's crusties on the surface not oxidation).

 

[BARKER]

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[PaddyB]

I am really not certain of the metal either. It is hard, and there is some copper content as there are some blue/green specks in the encrustation, but the patina is rather light for bronze.
The marks apparent in the picture are a very hard encrustation which is not giving in easily to a tooth pick. I still suspect a 19th century "grand tour" copy that has then been left in soil for a few years.