Updated, possible ID...Roman, Token or what is it...

[Bavaria Mike]

I can't get a 100% ID on it but doubt it is Roman. Received a few ideas and possibilities on other detecting forums and it's been IDed as a Rechenpfennig (Accounting Token) it had no actual value but was a symbol to represent a value while using an abacus. There were many different styles made, some symbolize businesses, Moneyers, Kings etc. Estimated date of the token is late 1500s to early 1700s. HH, Mike

Found this in Germany, the Romans didn't make it this far North but you never know.? Any ID help would be appreciated!? HH, Mike

 

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[JakePhelps]

Re: Roman, Token or what is it...

I say both! roman and token (a roman token) Maybe?? Did romans have tokens?

 

[IrishCharlieM]

Re: Roman, Token or what is it...

A Roman copy of a Greek coin.......That is Apoolo seated holding a lyre......

I have found one site decribing your coin in the web page header....But the site will not allow access..

I'll keep hunting

Good Luck

 

[lonewolfe]

Re: Roman, Token or what is it...

Cool find Mike!

HH

Lonewolfe

 

[IrishCharlieM]

Re: Roman, Token or what is it...

Portable Antiquities Scheme
Click to close section Coin-specific information ... Help Obverse Description:,
Seated Apollo holding lyre, being crowned by Honos holding cornucopia in her
pasbeta.toadhms.com/hms/pas_obj.php?type=finds& hmsstatus=preserve&id=1013&_previd=1012&_i... - 27k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

I have registered and am waiting for a password

This is the only thing I have been able to find with the desciption of your coin

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Re: Roman, Token or what is it...

Thanks a lot Irish Charlie for the help!!! HH, Mike

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Updated possible ID. HH, Mike

 

[gord]

I think I can remember trying to register on that PAS site some years ago - never got a reply.
Gord

 

[tlbuck]

On the first picture, the translation is official dignity (otherwise), on the one with the rooster, I got provide arms, conquer.

Where exactly did you find the coin? I have to pull up some old textbooks about the Roman Empire to view the boundaries.

Theresa

 

[gord]

Just went searching for the Portable Antiquities System and came up with

http://www.finds.org.uk/

- no password needed.

Maybe somebody can find a link to the coin/medal from there.
Gord

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Thanks for the help Gord and Theresa! I'm certain it is an accounting token from the early 1600s. HH, Mike

 

[Gunner]

this is not a Roman coin. I am not sure of attribution, only that it is not Roman nor ancient.

Gunner

 

[hollowpointred]

incredible find mike! it may have not had any value back in the day, but i bet it has some now! nice going!!

 

[rjnail]

coin r not would love to find one, nice fine

 

[dobipup81]

if you would like to find out if it is roman or not, there is a museum in trier germany (they are specialized in roman history)
http://gfnf-trier.de/rlmt/ it is worth a try to send them pictures and ask them.
i am pretty sure they will help

 

[Gunner]

Type: COIN?
Jeton

Dates
POST MEDIEVAL (Certain), 1586 AD - 1635 AD





Obverse Description: Seated Apollo holding lyre, being crowned by Honos holding cornucopia in her left hand
Obverse Inscription: HONOS ALIT ARTES H. K.

 

[dobipup81]

Honos Alit Artes was the first thing i was thinking about, but its not saying Artes on there? Honos Alit Arcum would also be a possibility?