Unusual rock or metal piece and very possible artifact.

[Salvatore]

This piece was found in North East Connecticut in my yard three to four inches below ground.A few years ago ground was excavated for new foundation.The piece measures 5" to 6" wide by 7" to 8" long.Looks like a metallic color material for the most part.Has a mark on top left of piece UR and 135 is incorporated in it. To the the side of markings is a AD mark too.Any information on this piece will appreciated and educational. Sal

 

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[Indian Steve]

Sorry, Just a rock that is playing tricks on your eyes. keep hunting.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I have to agree. Just a rock and not an artifact.

 

[Salvatore]

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Here's one more picture showing the other 135 mark on other side with a face below it.

 

[rock]

If you have to look that hard to see it, it will be natural and Im seeing just a rock.

 

[Salvatore]

Were you looking at original photo because it can be enlarged to see better.

 

[Charl]

It may be tough to tell a real artifact from a repro by photos alone sometimes, but often it's not a problem at all distinguishing rocks and artifacts. The experienced folks here are correct. It's just a rock without any man made marks.
Plenty of artifacts in northeastern Ct., though. You just need to learn what they will look like and find some good spots. Good luck....

 

[digger460]

Sorry, it's easy to find faces. On the other hand it's good to take a close look. You never know! This time tho, looks like Mother Nature.

 

[Salvatore]

Don't believe it natural mostly because of the UR stands out so obvious in top left corner and this other piece found near it.Man with pointed hat and man to left side,and this picture on right is positioned wrong and has to be turned to right to view

 

[jmaschal]

Have to agree with the others just a rock playing tricks... Been there many times. Like Rock said when you have to force it most likely just Mother Nature. I would find a local museum or website that shows local artifacts and compare. Good luck and discovering local history is so much fun - enables you to start putting all of the pieces together!

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Indians did not put those "faces" you see in those stones on there. That was Mother Nature and millions of years of erosion. You are experiencing Pareidolia, like when you see faces in clouds. The faces are there, they just aren't man made.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

 

[Salvatore]

Did you maybe think it might not be native American that made it?

If these are natural then is it possible mother nature fools me just like on this one too with picture of some type of bear that looks like it was made by removing the darker material but leaving some of it behind to create different images like for instance a animal or person.

 

[Salvatore]

 

[Tuberale]

I think Grim Reaper's comments are spot on.

 

[Charl]

If these are natural then is it possible mother nature fools me just like on this one too with picture of some type of bear that looks like it was made by removing the darker material but leaving some of it behind to create different images like for instance a animal or person.

That's natural as well. You're allowing your imagination to see images in natural features of the rocks. There are many instances of both human fashioned effigies, as well as both petroglyphs and pictographs that we could show you. But for purposes of simply addressing the rocks you believe are altered in the way you describe, the most honest and most accurate thing any of us could say is that you are mistaken. Those are not artifacts. And they do not show images created by humans. Naturally, you can doubt us, nothing wrong with being skeptical. But we do know what we are talking about, and you are mistaken. It's as simple as that, and we cannot alter the truth of the matter. It would be dishonest of us were we to agree with you, simply because you want us to agree with you. Can't do that and give you an honest answer at the same time. As I said, plenty of good spots to find artifacts in northeast Ct. Try any field on the Quinnibaug River, with permission from the owner. Visit the Pequot or Mohegan museums. Learn what man altered images on stone actually look like, instead of assuming you already do know. You are mistaken.

 

[Salvatore]

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Ok understand were you are coming from about your reply but if those are natural then how about this one of a carving of a person face a left profile view and a symbol marking of the people who carved it on right top of head.Pictures are side ways in attachment.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Also 100% natural.

 

[Salvatore]

That would be incorrect because a professional archeologists looks at it and found it to be man made.Posted it just see what the answers would be this time and they were the opposite to what is man made.Maybe a second guess but I imagine the answer would be 100% natural.

 

[jmaschal]

I can not speak about the archeologist you spoke with and I am not going to say definitive one way or another. Again I encourage your exploration with artifacts and history of your area. Continue to seek knowledge not reaffirmation of what you assume. I strongly encourage you to go to a local museum that has local historians and local artifacts... Share your story of how you found your suspected artifact, where you found your suspected artifact and be open minded. I don't want this site to discourage you... I don't want anyone's response to anger you... I want you to be educated in this great hobby and educate you for future adventures to better identify artifacts, increase your finds, and to educate others in your area that might be interested as well. Good luck!

 

[Charl]

That would be incorrect because a professional archeologists looks at it and found it to be man made.Posted it just see what the answers would be this time and they were the opposite to what is man made.Maybe a second guess but I imagine the answer would be 100% natural.

That professional would be mistaken as well. Those are absolutely not man made images in the stone. But, I have no idea why a professional archaeologist would choose to mislead you. It is hard to believe that such a person would be that mistaken. You have a great deal to learn, but you would rather stick to your mistaken interpretation. That's your right, but I don't know why anyone would prefer mistaken interpretations to the truth. Bear in mind that collectors with decades of experience very often know more then archaeologists who actually see far fewer artifacts then we collectors do. Their experience is limited to excavations, and they will have seen only a very tiny % of artifacts that long term avocational archaeologists and collectors have. Experienced collectors will generally have far more experience handling genuine Native American artifacts then any professional. That may seem counterintuitive to the uninitiated, but it is 100% a fact. At any rate, you can take it to the bank that the archaeologist who told you that was very mistaken.

I'm guessing you don't really want to learn, and we won't be able to help you as a result. Sad.....

By the way, the second of your last two photos is an example of differential weathering in closeup, and not an example of a man made carving. A geologist could tell you that, even if an archaeologist apparently could not.

It can be very frustrating to folks here when someone seeks our opinions, based on our considerable experience, and then proceeds to steadfastly reject the truth of the matter. I just don't understand what is gained by such an attitude. You have been given a 100% correct answer to your questions, and absolutely nothing is going to alter that fact. Including the completely incorrect opinions of a professional archaeologist.