Unusual find.Need opinion.

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I just found something never found before. It was at Dania beach.
In the water in the middle of a horse shoe.
I think it is from native Indians or Ship wreck.
It smell in side like oil but sweet.
And it is ringing like iron on my machine.
What you thinking?
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Primitive grenade perhaps? Lets see what the Cannonballguy has to say.
 

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Very interesting, I will stay tuned
 

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Paleopilot wrote:
> Primitive grenade perhaps? Lets see what the Cannonballguy has to say.

Definitely not a grenade. (Clay fragments don't do much harm even when propelled by gunpowder.)

It resembles some Native American clay pots we found back in college Archeology. It does not seem to be glazed. However, it could be from the Colonial era, or even the early-1800s. We need to see several photos of its base. Native American pottery tends not to have the neatly-formed flat base seen on items made with a Potter's Wheel.
 

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looks to me like a early oil lamp
 

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Like CBG said need pictures of the bottom, and I'm curious is there anything inside? Have you looked with a flash light inside ? I guess I'm just trying to figure out what is making it sound off, Just thinking out loud....................HH
 

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Paleopilot wrote:
> Primitive grenade perhaps? Lets see what the Cannonballguy has to say.

Definitely not a grenade. (Clay fragments don't do much harm even when propelled by gunpowder.)

It resembles some Native American clay pots we found back in college Archeology. It does not seem to be glazed. However, it could be from the Colonial era, or even the early-1800s. We need to see several photos of its base. Native American pottery tends not to have the neatly-formed flat base seen on items made with a Potter's Wheel.
Thnak you for the answer. I will attach more picture, however on the bottom of this pot it does not have sins of a potter's wheel being used.
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Like CBG said need pictures of the bottom, and I'm curious is there anything inside? Have you looked with a flash light inside ? I guess I'm just trying to figure out what is making it sound off, Just thinking out loud....................HH
Hi I looked inside. Its completely empty. there is only to white little substances that stick to the bottom.
 

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There were Cuban fishermen in south Florida, along with Spaniards, so it may be from one of them or from trade with the Indians. I've never seen any Florida pottery with such a narrow mouth/top, but I haven't seen any really early stuff neither. That's a really nice find!
 

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Flyadive wrote:
> Pottery door knob.
> http://m.shopmania.com/antiques/p-an...rknob-14925243

That is an interesting guess, and the resemblance is very close. But I'm reasonably sure The Bulgarian's find is not a clay doorknob, for the following reasons:
1- Clay doorknobs are solid, for strength... the unidentified object is hollow with thin walls.
2- The Bulgarian's unidentified object's body has nothing to "lock" it onto a shaft, which a doorknob has to have.
 

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A head scratcher for sure. Neat find. Why would your detector respond to it. You said "And it is ringing like iron on my machine." Would rust from the horseshoe cause it to ring, or is there pottery made with metal in it?
 

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A head scratcher for sure. Neat find. Why would your detector respond to it. You said "And it is ringing like iron on my machine." Would rust from the horseshoe cause it to ring, or is there pottery made with metal in it?
I know that red clay is red because it's iron rich... But does really iron rich soil set off a detector? Our soil in NH isn't excessively iron rich, so I'm truly curious. (and my detector doesn't have a meter, it just beeps and darned if I know when it's iron, I just dig it).
And what about in Southern Florida, iron rich soil? I don't think of Florida as having produced a great deal of earthenware, pottery, etc (but can always be wrong). But if that were correct I guess we could rule out Native Americans? So, Spanish? English? (I don't think the French were that far south, right?)
 

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A head scratcher for sure. Neat find. Why would your detector respond to it. You said "And it is ringing like iron on my machine." Would rust from the horseshoe cause it to ring, or is there pottery made with metal in it?

I know of some Roman pottery which is high in minerals & does give a signal. So its possible.
 

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A head scratcher for sure. Neat find. Why would your detector respond to it. You said "And it is ringing like iron on my machine." Would rust from the horseshoe cause it to ring, or is there pottery made with metal in it?
The pottery it self giving signal to my Detector.
Back in Bulgaria when I was hunting some Roman sides,many times the detectors was going crazy over Roman ceramic.
Special ceramic road plates.
 

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Interesting to know - thanks! I was fortunate enough to get to Hawaii back a bit, but bummed at how much volcanic rock set a detector off!
 

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