✅ SOLVED Unusual cartridge?? This One has really got me!!

[tokens70]

Ok bullet guys, I have a type of cartridge that I have never encountered before. If it didn't have remnants of black powder in it, I probably wouldn't even have known or considered it to be some kind of cartridge, Even though it does have a bullet stuffed down in the casing

 

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[Broken knee]

Could it be a .36 cal Thuer cartridge? HH
BK
The forth from the right in this image. please excuse my dyslexia forth from the left you know my other right.

It was the first cartrage for the Model 1851 and 1861 Navy percussion revolver conversions.

 

[turtlefoot13]

If I am seeing it correctly, it looks like you have found a rather rare cartridge. It looks like a cupfire cartridge.

Doug

 

[Broken knee]

Just another thought it could be a pin fire round given the hole in the side. The thuer had a primer pocket which yours doesn't have. HH
BK

 

[tokens70]

It definitely looks more like the cupfire cartridge, as it looks just like the picture that turtlefoot posted...it even has the rim indentation half way up the casing like the one in the picture. The cupped area on the back end of the casing does look like it was made that way, and not something someone did later out of boredom, etc., it is too uniform for that If it is a cupfire cartridge, what would it date from? And how rare is this bullet? Thank you very much guys, I really appreciate your assistance in this Chris

 

[turtlefoot13]

Here is a good article. As for rarity, it is the first that I have ever seen dug.

History & Explanation of The Cupfire System

 

[tokens70]

Awesome link...Very interesting!!! Thank you very much for that turtlefoot