Unknown (to me) Navy Button

[romeo-1]

Not my button but would like to know more about it. Never seen this one before.

The back has a crown and "Treble Gilt - Standard Colour"...

 

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[HutSiteDigger]

Was this found in the states or another country?

 

[romeo-1]

Found in Canada but I'm sure it's British...just never seen one with the cannons before...

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Probably a British Royal Navy Master Gunner's button, from the 1790s through 1820s.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Sorry to keep asking questions.. Was this found near the Rideau Canal ?? Which was constructed in 1826-1832...

The Rideau Canal is a large strategic canal constructed for military purposes which played a crucial contributory role in allowing British forces to defend the colony of Canada against the United States of America, leading to the development of two distinct political and cultural entities in the north of the American continent, which can be seen as a significant stage in human history.

If i recall a similar button was found along the Canal that had a anchor and two cannons on it like this... I can't for the life of me find it though I can't recall if it was a artillery or engineers button, i will keep trying and hopefully others can find out. Can't wait for an ID.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

CBG is probably on the right track of course... Wonder if the button has to do with Rideau Canal though.

 

[romeo-1]

CBG is probably on the right track of course... Wonder if the button has to do with Rideau Canal though.

Nope...about a thousand miles from the Rideau...

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Ok.. we can dismiss that then... Really neat find though. Thanx for posting!

 

[Bramblefind]

Super find Here's another of the style. Slightly different backmark-

UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Bramble or CBG do you think this button could have been involved with the War Of 1812? or post or pre?

 

[CRUSADER]

Bramble or CBG do you think this button could have been involved with the War Of 1812? or post or pre?

I think this type is much more likely early 19th C & not late 18th C, so its within the range I'm thinking.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

HutSiteDigger wrote:
> Bramble or CBG do you think this button could have been involved with the War Of 1812? or post or pre?

The earliest button which shows an anchor inside an OVAL (not a circle) is shown in the button-book by Alphaeus Albert as #BNH-6, which the book identifies as a brass 1-piece British Navy Commissioned Officers button from 1787-to-1795, with a raised-mark backmark saying "Treble Gilt / Standard Colour." Also, note that the book's button BNH-7 (also a brass 1-piece button) is listed as 1795-to-1812, and it has a raised-mark backmark. So, assuming that Mr. Albert's ID-info for those two buttons is correct, brass 1-piece buttons with a raised-mark backmark can date as early as the 1790s, and perhaps a couple of years earlier.

Of course, being a brass 1-piece button with a raised-lettering backmark does not "by itself" mean that Romeo-1's British Navy button dates from as early as the 1790s. For that dating, I'm relying on the COMBINATION of the earliest date of a raised-mark backmark with the earliest date that the anchor-inside-an-oval emblem was used (according to the Albert button-book).

 

[Iron Patch]

Very nice one. British Royal Navy Transport Service.(1795-1812) Not a common find at all.

 

[CRUSADER]

Very nice one. British Royal Navy Transport Service.(1795-1812) Not a common find at all.

interesting, never heard of it

 

[cw0909]

Very nice one. British Royal Navy Transport Service.(1795-1812) Not a common find at all.

is this it 3rd row 4th one from left
512437 Buttons of the British Navy