Unknown cut copper coin/token/jeton-SOLVED - 1762 German 21 Heller

[Don in SJ]

Posting for a friend, this cut copper was found in SE Virginia and found in the same area of several pieces of cut silver and other early relics.
It is approx 21-22mm in diameter and rather thin. Visible details are self-eplanatory but the XI or IX could have more roman numerals with it on the missing piece.

Letters EIN something on one side

Letter CUMPRI or CUM.PRI or PR1, not sure, a possible date of 170_ and some symbols or is that an arm? Anyway, looking for help on this one, leaning towards it being a Jeton, German, Portugal or somewhere in that area, doubt it is French and it is not English..

Don

 

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[traderoftreasures]

Re: Unknown cut copper coin/token/jeton

just a wag.... 11th century roman/greek coin. i thought i saw a XI on the back

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: Unknown cut copper coin/token/jeton

Another WAG:
I see a man holding a staff in his left hand with his right arm raised.
The letters 'cum pri' (if this were in Latin) mean: "as soon as".
I also imagine the left piece as saying "einen", German for 'one'.
Don.......(in SD)

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Unknown cut copper coin/token/jeton

I just received an email from a good friend who has in my opinion nailed the coin. It is a 1761 or 1762 German 21 Heller.

Don

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: Unknown cut copper coin/token/jeton

On page 8 here:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbTTiVVzMOk_1reJF7SRQQqqq2fc9A

item 129a suggests that the 21 Heller with the abbreviation CUM PRIV (versus CUM PRI) is particular to 1762.

 

[Mackaydon]

Re: Unknown cut copper coin/token/jeton

"Stalt Bocholt cum pri (or priv)" then the date.

The reverse might read "einen eichs thaler 60"
....as shown here (though not the exact coin) :http://www.ma-shops.com/olding/item_print.php5?lang=en&id=220549

 

[CRUSADER]

Hard one to crack, well done