unidentified belt plate Maybe old malitia (2 crossed musket)

[dirt diggler]

found this in WV along with various other early 1800's late 1700's finds to present of course. The crossed flintlock was used by US army in 1875 on but all i can find is patches, no plates So i was hopeing on of you may have some intell on this item Dont know if maybe from rev war or later or possible a malitia that the symbol was addopted from?Thank you for any info.

 

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[traderoftreasures]

Re: crossed flint lock riffle plate need info

hi dirt diggler,, we need a picture please

 

[johnnyi]

Re: crossed flint lock riffle plate need info

dirt digger, as I mentioned in the other thread, it doesn't look like a flintlock, but may be a cap and ball which would place it later if it's contemporary. Don't forget to show the back for traces of attachement marks.

 

[dirt diggler]

Re: crossed flintlock riffle plate need info pics added. sorry.

www.milbadges.com/corps/usa/infantry
is one of many sites which state the insignia is two vintage 1795 springfield musket's which were .69 cal flintlock
the insignia was used in 1875 but change per weapon group untill 1922 when it became once again two crossed 1795 springfeild .69 cal flintlock muskets .The answer lies in the fact that i cant find any examples of this belt plate the army handed out patches of this not a plate that i have heard of or seen.

 

[traderoftreasures]

Re: crossed flintlock riffle plate need info pics added. sorry.

just a guess would be spanish american war belt buckle plate

 

[vayank54]

Re: crossed flintlock riffle plate need info pics added. sorry.

Jason
I looked and couldn't find anything like it. It may not be a buckle but might be a cross belt plate. It's sort of made like the early clip corners but as far as I know they all had any detail either engraved or applied and not stamped. My guess is Span-Am /Indian war period but I can't say for sure. If no one ID's it before then take it to one of the shows in Fredricksburg this coming spring and show it to Mike O'Donnel or Steve Sylvia. If they don't know what it is I'm sure they will know someone who does.

 

[dirt diggler]

ive sent this pic all around and everyone is gettin burned up about being able to find symbol but no plate . Come on guys dont let me down . there has to be a example out there somewhere ..heres as close as ive got but i think its the wrong way on the timeline this was made during the battle in santiago in Cuba Rosevelt was at

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Fantastic dig there sir

 

[vayank54]

I wish I could help you on ths but have never seen one and couldn't find one in any of my books. I'll keep my eyes open though.