✅ SOLVED U.M.C. Co. Arrow Shotgun Shell Casing. Need Help Dating It.

[FreeBirdTim]

Found a really old shotgun shell casing today, a U.M.C. Co. Arrow No.12. I know that U.M.C. merged with Remington in 1912, so it has to be pre-1912. Any way to pin down a better date range?

There used to be a really good website where you could look up the headstamps, but I can't find it any more. What's your opinion on this one? Thanks!

 

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[Jason in Enid]

dang it, I saw a headstamp database website a few months ago. I'll see if I can find it again....

ETA- sorry, the website I was thinking of was just pictorial with no individual date ranges.

FYI, if you want to look at it it's Shotgun

This is the general company info:
Union Metallic Cartridge Company

In 1854, Jacob Schuyler, Marcellus Hartley and Malcomb Graham formed the Schuyler, Hartley & Graham Sporting Goods Company in New York City. Destined to become one of the largest sporting goods houses in the world, it provided cartridges and rifles produced by other manufacturers to the Union Army during the Civil War and amassed a fortune. In 1866, the company acquired two small cartridge companies, and the following year re-incorporated as the Union Metallic Cartridge Company (UMC) in Bridgeport, Connecticut. By 1900, Hartley was the sole owner of the company.


U.M.C. known as the Union Metallic Cartridge Company was founded in 1867 by Marcellus Hartley in Bridgeport, Connecticut. They manufactured a variety of shells up until 1911 at which time the company was merged with Remington.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

U.M.C. ARROW dates from 1901-1910 https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=140964

 

[Jason in Enid]

U.M.C. ARROW dates from 1901-1910 https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=140964

awesome! I have to go pull some of my stage stop headstamps and see what dates range they fall into.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

dang it, I saw a headstamp database website a few months ago. I'll see if I can find it again

Yup, it was a really good website, but it seems to have disappeared.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

You're the man, NOLA_Ken! Thanks so much!

 

[FreeBirdTim]

Thanks for the info, Jason!

 

[pistol-pete]

All I can tell you is it dates before 1912, UMC sold Remington in 1912 and then were marked Rem-UMC

 

[Davers]

'Turtlefoot'
Had a great Head Stamp reference ,but seems it /he dropped of a few years ago.

Saw him on another site as well 6 year old post tho.

I been keeping mine for 4 years now , I used to throw them in with the Iron to be recycled.

 

[Davers]

U.M.C. ARROW dates from 1901-1910 https://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=140964

Ahhh.
I should have checked the link before posting , it does seem to end in 2013 , There used to be Many Pictures , it was/is ? a great amount of work , I 'May' have printed some of the pages , I hope so.

Also I hope 'turtlefoot ' is in good health. It was & still is a great reference.
Davey