Two wrecks one on top of the other!~

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I have been working on a site for a few months now, until recently I was sure that there were 1800 salvours who beat me to it...however after removing numerous, 3 piece molded bottles and rickets bottles,I started finding 1720 style bottles freeblown, the spikes have varied from round shafts to square heads (British) the sheeting from lead to copper (not the lead from the biscuit room or patching)now once into the timbers I have stumbled into river stone and quarried stone,modern spoons and pewter and older ceramics. Two sites one on top of the other whether the salvours met the same fate or weather nature caused them both to end up wedged between the rocks I may not know, if I can get a name or identify one of them then I may be able to finish this story. 99*
 

I do wonder what the odds are, with the ocean being as enormous as it is, of two ships sinking one on top of the other, i would certainly think the odds are against it.
 

Greetings,
Actually the odds of finding one wreck atop another is not that long - the oceans, even though vast, are full of many, many currents and cross-currents, which create eddies etc that tend to collect anything loose like sunken ships in fairly small spots. I know of several sites with more than a single wreck, stacked on top of each other. Another way ships sink in the same spots are due to local weather conditions (bad storms hitting the same spot) and underwater reefs and rocks - hence the numerous wrecks in the Grand Reef.

Interesting finds you have made, can't wait to hear the rest of this story!
Oroblanco
 

99

this is something commom to happen, thats why you will find shipwrecks marked on nautical charts to avoid others to wreck in the same site. How deep is this wreck? Try to find old charts of the site to see if they show a wreck? If these are in shallow waters there is a chance that the one on top wrecked because of the one in the bottom.

Best of the season,


Chagy
 

Hmm you guys make some good points, thanks for setting me right.
 

The old movie THE DEEP was about a moden wreck site on top of an older one. That story is based on a site in Bermuda found by Teddy Tucker that had three wrecks on top of one another. Hollywood writers didn't think the movie going public would believe the truth so the went with the two wreck idea.
Donovan
 

A site I worked on in the Bahamas that was 16th. century (1565) was surrounded by 18 th. and 19 th. century debris. Some parts of the sites overlapped. A short lobster catching swim away was a small reef. There were parts of at least eight other wrecks that were 17 th. and 18 th. century sites, all mixed up together. Anchors and cannons every where.
The reef was a natural trap since it stuck out into deeper water. It was only eight feet underwater.
Splash,
Donovan
 

To confirm Cornelius statement bout the wrecks not always are where they sink. In march 2000 a chemical ship, Martina, carrying 600 tons of acid collided with a container ship just north of zealand, denmark. The ship broke in two. The two pieces are now laying 1,9 nautical miles from each other. The Positions are: 56:17,657E 12:24,275N and 56:15,755E 12:25,025N.

Regards

Voldbjerg
 

have also read about riverboats sinking, and then others hitting wreckage in the shallow waters and sinking on the same spot...this and shallow reefs could help explain possibly.
 

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