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The coin is a Dragon Dollar AKA Trade Dollar.
 

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What you are calling a trade token looks to me to be an advertising "hanger" tied to the laces of a pair of shoes. The manufacturer hoped to get some extra advertising if the buyer would use the piece as a keychain tag or even just keep the piece so he would be reminded to buy that brand of shoes next time around. Not unlike the common brass "willow calf shoes" piece that so many have called a trade token in the past.

John in ID
 

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Just adding a bit more. Of course idahotokens is the man when it comes to that sort of thing.

968 is an eBay seller listing items in Shoes, VINTAGE BERNARD FRIEDMAN TANNERS BOSTON TOKEN, POLISHING EMPLOYEE'S TICKET GOOD FOR ONE SHINE VTG ...
collectibles.search.ebay.com/_Clothing-Fashion_W0QQsacatZ13583QQsassZjdubb1968 - 48k - Cached - Similar pages

Unfortunately, nothing comes up on the above.

Tony
 

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Mac232 said:
Does that mean it,s silver ?

I would say it looks silver to me :)
 

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Picture adjusted:
 

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I think I found a coin with the same Odv:

in 1905, the designs were changed, replacing the emperor's name with the Chinese characters for Da Qing ("Great Ching") and the two characters either side with Tong Bi ("bronze coin"). These new coins were in four different denominations, valued at 20, 10, 5 and 2 wen (cash) of standard bronze coins and weights of 0.4, 0.2, 0.1 and 0.04 of a tael. These Ta Ching coins, and those that followed, are slightly larger and thicker than the earlier milled coinage. They were first introduced by the Tianjin mint, now renamed as the General Mint of the Ministry of the Interior and Finance, with the reverse legend in English TAI-CHING-TI-KUO COPPER COIN and the emperor's name above in Chinese characters. Similar coins were produced in the provinces. Most bear two Chinese characters, one either side of the obverse denoting the date based on the sexagenary cycle. In the example illustrated below these characters appear in the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions on the obverse and are equivalent to 1907. Coins produced other than in Tianjin usually bear a small mintmark character in the centre of the obverse on a raised circular disc.
 

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Thanks John in ID , any idea on how old these might be ?


Thanks LaBeep I bought a couple of coin lots on Flea Bay and the seller threw some tokens in for free ...... this was with the tokens , he said he wasn,t able to ID it .... thanks again .


Mac
 

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Mac--a quick Google search finds that the Bernard & Friedman Co. of Boston was combined into the American Hide & Leather company in 1899 and became part of a shoeleather "trust" at that time. It could have retained the same name, however, after the larger company took control. So, as a ballpark figure, I'd say it dates from around 1899. And, yes, it could have been used as a watchfob, however most fobs have a slot for a leather strap rather than a hole for suspension. This piece is made of leather, right?
John in ID
 

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Mac232 said:
threw some tokens in for free ......
The real ones were silver, and the fakes had a large silver content. So many different types and at different locations over a number of years, throw in the fakes, makes these coins hard to pin down. As you can see in the first link, I link I provided you see the diam is 38.5 or 39 mm, the weight is 26.6 - 26.8 - 27 g, and with a fineness of 88%. More research is need to find your exact coin, but I gave you a starting point with the copper coin I posted.
That info came out of the first link.
 

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I believe this is it.

On ebay for $230.00 so far.

Tony
 

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