Tudor rose seal and lion head medal...

[Bartek]

Trying to date/Id these two finds from recent trip to Rhode Island. First is a broken lead (bag?) seal with Tudor Rose. Reverse side I cannot make anything of:





Second unidentifiable item is this pewter cross-shaped medal with what seems like lions head in the middle. Was able to find Rhodesian medals of valor online which make be believe it can be British origin?



Any help will be appreciated, thanks for looking and happy hunting T-net!

Bartek

 

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[Eastcoasthunter21]

I believe the first item is a lead
Coin off the Santa Maria
Or the Nina I can’t be positive
( both had very similar lead coins )
As for the second item.
What you’ve got there my esteemed hunter
Is the neck Medelian of a British officer
Probably lost in battle
When he was beheaded by Indians
Congrats on some super finds
Hh gl e/c

 

[Eastcoasthunter21]

Wooh ...zero replies besides me of course
Wha happing

 

[A2coins]

and scalped

 

[Bartek]

I guess these are going into the “mystery pile”

 

[A2coins]

Rosette