✅ SOLVED Trying to help someone ID this beautiful piece. Got any ideas?

[creskol]

Here is what I know:

1) Made of pewter
2) 3" high x 2-1/4" wide x 1/4" thick
3) It was found in an Indiana farm field.

Thanks for your help.

 

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[nova treasure]

here you go,
A lead cartridge box plate believed to have been lost by a member of the Portsmouth Light Artillery while fighting from Craney Island to repel a British amphibious raid in 1813 piece, found in the 1950s, has two cannon tubes, indicating it was worn by an artilleryman. Courtesy Portsmouth Naval Museum

 

[creskol]

I believe that is a Virginia Artilleryman plate from around 1812.

WOW Nova .. That's it! Where is that photo from? Thanks a million!~

 

[nova treasure]

WOW Nova .. That's it! Where is that photo from? Thanks a million!~

Virginia National Guard History your very welcome, on the link just scroll down to the "new Republic".

 

[diggummup]

I don't know exactly what it is but I like it. But I'll give you something to think about. The style of the eagle with what appear to be cannons, along with the shield, wreath, stars and rays all suggest military to me, early military. The design is pre Civil war era. I'm thinking 1812 era, cockade eagle hat device, an early Dragoon regiment maybe. I know some of the earlier devices were struck in pewter and some with thin brass and lead filled backs with double wire fasteners on the back. That's my two cents for what it's worth.


edit- Nevermind i'm a day late and a dollar short as usual.

 

[creskol]

You're the best, Nova! Greatly appreciated! Hope you have a great Christmas!

 

[yelnif]

Great ID nova treasure

 

[NGE]

Should mark this post as solved

 

[taz42o]

Well I know for a fact those were Ingrahams clock pendulums , so are the others misidentified or did they star copying box plates as pendulums.
The one posted looks like it was a pendulum to me, you can see were the iron rod ran down the back and rusted.

 

[creskol]

Should mark this post as solved

Well I know for a fact those were Ingrahams clock pendulums , so are the others misidentified or did they star copying box plates as pendulums.
The one posted looks like it was a pendulum to me, you can see were the iron rod ran down the back and rusted.
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Well maybe I have marked it solved too soon then! That is good stuff there Taz .. Can you direct me to the source of your photo? Thanks a bunch!

 

[diggummup]

Ingraham was founded in 1831- E. Ingraham Company Records

 

[diggummup]

Wouldn't a pendulum be made out of something other than lead? Pendulum for E Ingraham Mantel Clock Antique Parts Original Beautiful Lot E | eBay

edit Maybe not?- http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/51111-nautical-emblem-buckle-like-size.html

 

[creskol]

Thanks for your input everybody .. Have a great Christmas!

 

[taz42o]

Well maybe I have marked it solved too soon then!

That is good stuff there Taz .. Can you direct me to the source of your photo? Thanks a bunch!


Ingraham Commemorative (?) Shelf Clock, St Louis W... - The eBay Community

 

[diggummup]

Since the clock pendulum's are made of white metal and the box plates are made of lead can't we determine which one it is by the metal composition? Or is the Va. Nat. Guard website incorrect altogether?

 

[ilovesilver97]

Hi all, New here. My search lead me here becasue i found an exact item just like pictured here some 25 yrs ago. Did anyone ever determine what exactly it was?

i have heard clock pendulum and plate off an old cartridge box.

Thanks in advance

Pics attached

 

[Mud Hut]

Rare Antique Ingraham Flying Eagle Parlor Gingerbread Clock Pendulum | eBay

 

[Kiros32]

I think with the remnants of the iron in the back, that is pretty definitively a clock pendulum.

 

[ilovesilver97]

Rare Antique Ingraham Flying Eagle Parlor Gingerbread Clock Pendulum | eBay

Thanks for the info

 

[ilovesilver97]

I think with the remnants of the iron in the back, that is pretty definitively a clock pendulum.

Thank you for the info