Treasure hunter pinpoints lost Nazi gold

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Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold
The Amber Room in the Catherine Palace in St. Petersburg
David Crossland in Berlin

Treasure hunters claim to have found two tonnes of looted Nazi gold, which they believe to be part of the Amber Room, a chamber of such elaborate beauty that it has been called the eighth wonder of the world.

The discovery was made at the weekend near the German village of Deutschneudorf. Tests found a man-made cavern 20 metres below ground that is believed to contain a large amount of precious metals.

“It's definitely not iron,” Heinz-Peter Haustein, who took part in the search, said. “It's gold, maybe silver. We expect it to be either gold from the Amber Room or gold that would give us clues to another hiding place.”

The digging has not yet reached the cavern and the recovery of the precious metals, believed to be in crates, is likely to take weeks because explosives experts and engineers have to be brought in to check for booby traps and to make the site safe, Mr Haustein added. It has been under guard since the weekend.
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Mr Haustein, 53, a Member of Parliament for the Free Democrats, the liberal opposition party, has made it his hobby to search for the Amber Room in his home region in the past ten years. He is convinced that the treasure, which was stolen by Nazi Germany from the Soviet Union during the Second World War and which vanished in the turmoil of the final weeks of the conflict, was hidden in a network of copper and silver ore mines in the Ore Mountains along the German border with the Czech Republic.

Over the years Mr Haustein has received several tip-offs from people claiming to have knowledge of secret railways to the region. He says he has spent tens of thousands of euros of his own money on the hunt and has even hired people to use divining rods.

The tip-off that led to the latest purported discovery came from Christian Hanisch, from northern Germany, whose late father was a signaller in the Luftwaffe during the war. While going through papers belonging to his father Mr Hanisch found documents containing the co-ordinates of locations where the Nazis supposedly hid gold and diamonds at the end of the war.

“These co-ordinates were an exact match with the location of our search,” Mr Haustein said. “There was a note written next to the co-ordinates that the site contained Nazi Party gold. If the gold is there the Amber Room will be too. This is the place where the Nazis brought valuables by the truckload.”

The documents also contained warnings about booby trap devices.

The Amber Room, which was made out of amber panels backed with gold leaf, was created in the early 18th century. Friedrich Wilhelm I, a Prussian, gave it to Tsar Peter the Great, his Russian ally, in 1716.

In October 1941, four months after Germany invaded the Soviet Union, the Germans took it from the Catherine Palace near to what was then Leningrad and brought it to Königsberg in East Prussia, which is now the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. Part of it was exhibited in Königsberg Castle during the war.

Its disappearance in 1945 is one of the great enduring mysteries of the Second World War. There have been hundreds of theories about its fate and location. Some historians claim that it was destroyed in RAF bombing raids on Königsberg, others said that it was put on board a submarine, which the Soviets sank in the Baltic Sea.

Over the years searches have failed to uncover it and there is no firm evidence yet that the find in Deutschneudorf has anything to do with it. Meanwhile, the village, which calls itself the Amber Room Village, is enjoying something of a gold rush with an influx of reporters and treasure hunters.

Gone . . . but not forgotten

- One theory states that Erich Koch, the SS Commander, bowed to Polish interrogation in 1965 and revealed that the Amber Room was hidden in a bunker near Königsberg

- In 2004, documents supressed for decades by Moscow, suggested that Russian soldiers had burnt down the Knight’s Hall in Königsberg Castle, in which the treasure was stored

- Georg Stein, an investigator, claimed to have discovered a radio message detailing the hiding of the Amber Room. He was found dead in 1987, fueling belief in an Amber Room curse

- Some historians claim that boxes containing the dismantled parts were loaded on to a German vessel that was sunk by Soviet torpedoes

- Recent tip-offs have led investigators to an abandoned silver mine south of Berlin and to the shores of the Baltic Sea

Sources: Times archives, www.amberroom.org
 

Re: Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

Interesting.
Why two posts about the same thing this morning, though?
 

Re: Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

Very interesting, so what governments will try to lay claim to that if it is actually found?

JetShark
 

Re: Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

Here is a Treasure Hunters Dream - Wow.....


Text story Here:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/02/25/nazi.gold/index.html

Will dig find Nazi treasure or fool's gold?
Story Highlights
Digging in search of lost Nazi gold set to resume Tuesday

Treasure hunters think 2 tons of treasure could be buried in mountainside

Men behind mission battle doubts: "What if we find nothing again?"

By Frederik Pleitgen
CNN

DEUTSCHNEUDORF, Germany (CNN) -- Digging will resume Tuesday at a site in the southeastern German town of Deutschneudorf, where treasure hunters believe there are almost 2 tons of Nazi gold and possibly clues to the whereabouts of the legendary Amber Room, a prize taken from a Russian castle during World War II.

"Drilling will begin around noon, and we hope to hit the cave," Heinz Peter Haustein, one of the two treasure hunters and a member of Germany's parliament, said in a news release.

Digging was stopped more than a week ago amid safety concerns, as authorities and the treasure hunters feared that the shaft might collapse and that the cave -- if it is there -- may be rigged with explosives or poisonous booby traps.

At a news conference Friday, Christian Hanisch, the other treasure hunter, said that geological surveying equipment had located a possible cave about 30 feet under the surface containing "precious metals that can only be either gold or silver. The instruments would not have reacted to any other metal like copper." See photos from hunt for lost Nazi gold »

Hanisch pointed out that his father, who was a navigator in the Luftwaffe, the Nazi air force, was one of the troops said to have been involved in hiding art, gold and silver as the Nazis realized that they would lose the war.

He said that when his father died, he left coordinates leading to the spot in Deutschneudorf.

"It's not about getting the reward," Hanisch said at the site. "I just want to know if my father was right and if my instincts were right."

Haustein, who is paying for the expedition, said he hopes that finding the gold could lead to the Amber Room, whose interior is made completely of amber and gold. It was looted by the Nazis from a castle in St. Petersburg, Russia, after Adolf Hitler's forces invaded the Soviet Union in 1941.

The room looked so majestic, many called it "the eighth wonder of the world." It disappeared after the war, and today a replica stands in its place in St. Petersburg.

Although parts of the Amber Room have resurfaced, the vast majority remains missing.

Haustein has been looking for the room for more than 12 years. Watch hunt for Nazi gold at German mountain »

"I am certain that large parts of the Amber Room are buried somewhere here," he said.

He said he has collected much circumstantial evidence suggesting that the Nazis hid the Amber Room in old copper mines around Deutschneudorf, but he has no proof.

Haustein said the Nazis began bringing valuables including art, gold and silver to the region around Deutschneudorf as early as summer 1944.

Deutschneudorf is in Germany's Ore Mountains, and the mountain where the treasure hunters claim to have found the Nazi gold was a copper mine until the 19th century. Although the mine was shut down in 1882, geologists found evidence that soldiers from Hitler's Wehrmacht -- the German armed forces -- had been there. The machine guns, parts of uniforms and explosives are on display at the town's museum.

Though both treasure hunters say they are certain they will find cultural goods, both admit that they fear disappointment.

"Of course, if you embark on something like this, you ask yourself: 'What if we find nothing again? What if I was fooled?' " Haustein said. "But every man has to go his own way, for better or for worse."

If they do find the treasure, Haustein says, it would legally belong to Germany, although he would recommend that Germany give any Amber Room parts back to Russia.

Treasure hunters have typically received rewards of 10 percent of the value of the goods found, but Hanisch says there are no laws dictating the reward amount.

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Video Here:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=6646974&ch=4226714&src=news
 

Re: Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

Interesting to know what kind of "sophisticated metal detector" they used to locate items 20 yards under ground. Wonder what they used?
xXx
 

Re: Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

xXx said:
Interesting to know what kind of "sophisticated metal detector" they used to locate items 20 yards under ground. Wonder what they used?
xXx
Sounds vaguely LRL like?? ???
 

Re: Treasure hunter 'pinpoints' lost Nazi gold

Good question, just for FYI for us all,,,but whomever makes it, I am sure it is way out of most peoples
price range. The video link shows them using a few detectors.
 

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