Trail Marker? Help!

Mammothman

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Doing some research here in Colorado since moving here. On the drive up I saw a rock formation that I believe was a trail marker near Walsenburg, which is near the Spanish Peaks and is well known in the books I have on lost mines etc., to have been a location where the Spanish both mined and even built a small fort in the early 1800s. I found this photo while doing some research and I believe it to be a trail marker because of the shape of the doorway in the formation I have pointed out in the picture. This would have been a great location for a marker because it would have blended in so well with the landscape and those who don't know what to look for would have missed it. This was taken just north of the Spanish Peaks a few miles and I am thinking of heading out there this weekend to look around and photo the trail marker (?) that I saw and see this one. Please tell me what you think of this being a real marker.
 

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MMan:
That is one HECK of a pressure ridge. How did you figure the man-modified hoyos from the natural stuff?
 

ShortStack:
I am not sure it is a doorway and marker, but if it is what jumped out at me was the fact the part I believe is a doorway was so regular and square across the bottom. I am trying to plan a trip out to this site this weekend.
 

Beautiful photo depicting numerous examples of wind erosion. That's huge country - when you arrive onsite, what exactly are you going to look for?
 

great picture! and that Mr. Winderosion sure does a good job.wonder if he is spanish?
 

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mammothman,

welcome to treasurenet and thanks for posting your pic
Old Dog was exactly correct ~! [as usual] and
Springfield was exactly in correct [as usual]

here is what Kenworthy in his book Spanish Trail Signs and Monuments [out of print] calls an Entry Marker
the large profile face shows only one Trail is available and since it is a human face, it is showing the way home~! Now on the right side of the photo those marks are all pointing to the right and the way more than likely to the Mine~! however they are too far away to make an accurate diagnoses from so far, if you have some close ups or can get them without too much effort...even a telephoto pic will work.

meanwhile there is also at the foot of the profile face in the center of the gateway marker is what Kenworthy calls a 'beer can' marker,- on page 49 -he says he calls it that because that is what it looks like and I agree...this trail marker is telling you "that you can go around this butte in either side [direction]
the trail is about the same for men and animals" [unless you can find the inverted V - which might point out the better trail after all.
Trail Marker mamothman 1-rangler marked.jpg
Here is a perfect example that Springfleild has lost ALL credibility as a critic AND as a treasure hunter as he has proved only the last week or two - that is is not really all the skilled at either..so it begs the question...
what is he doing here, and why is he doing it..now several folks are starting to wonder, why are their pics of rock monuments nothing but bored sheep herders or lazy cowboys, stoned hippies, lost search and rescue guys, or that last one, a throwback surveyor who uses old school marks for his waypoints..hmmmmm?
oh last but not least is the catch all 'conglomerate'
My opinion and in exercising my free speech rights, first amendment style, is that he is working as a mouth piece for the Jesuits, and who ever took 'Father' Polzner' place...kinda a 'quid pro quo' deal.. he defends the Mother Church online..acting as a bulwark against the raising force of more and more treasure hunters getting closer to breaking the Spanish Code, as they themselves are working feverously to recover the goods still in the ground..make no mistake about it, I have proof from a treasure hunter that his mentor was working directly with the Church to recover the Church Artifacts, in fact this treasure hunters deal was that he could keep all the bullion and bars he found and all he had to do was to turn over the precious artifacts..so perhaps Steverino has cut the same deal with the added duty to stay online like a knight templar of old and protect the mother church by disinformation, disuading, discouraging, downplaying anything that even looks like a treasure or trail sign...trackers and by that I mean true trackers, those of earnest effort, honest intent, and keen sense of seeng thru the BS, I ask you to think about his look over his last 50 posts [as I am compiling his last 100 post!] and if you do not come to the same conclusion,
I will buy you , your favorite adult beverage!

You know time off, as my enemies - here like to put is, is something they have thrown in my face as though I should be ashamed..well I am not, that time off made this coalesce for me- fate has played a powerful part of my entire endeavor in this pursuit...and I have come to look at what are the meanings, the lessons that one can glean from having to 'pay the price' of pitfalls ,some accidental and like this one 'manmade'
soooooo whats the upshot....mr disinformation tried to 'cook' the books and now has egg on his face.

'whatca gonna do when your friends turn on you' ] sung to the tune of whatca gonna do when 'they' come for you...?

and yes steve I did enjoy my time off it gave me a fresh perspective of all the 'players' on this site.
As a service to the new members they can pm me and I have a 'scorecard' for them....
remember..just like in a baseball game, you cant enjoy the game unless you have a scorecard~! whats better mine is FREE~! [even though I paid a hefty price for it~!:hello:

I am rangler and I said that, I meant that, and am willing to stand behind that..~!
rangler

ps: WHAT SAY YOU TRUE TRACKERS~??

[sorry I don't need to hear from the cloud readers or pareidoliacs -on this subject especially~!]

P8 seek knowledge rather than silver, understanding rather than gold
 

Mothman:
That "Ignore User" button will help you cull out the ranters.
 

rangler said:
..... Springfield was exactly in correct [as usual] .....

..... Here is a perfect example that Springfleild has lost ALL credibility .......

...... he is working as a mouth piece for the Jesuits .....

..... has cut the same deal with the added duty to stay online like a knight templar of old and protect the mother church.....

.... I ask you to think about his look over his last 50 posts ....

Your comments are ... uh ... a bit over the top, don't you think? Why focus on my facts, R? Maybe instead you should be trying to sell your own ideas. Methinks you protesteth too much. By the way, I invite your pals to review all my old posts - I stand behind them.
 

Stevey babe..[think dennis miller accent]
I can see how you might think so, comparing you to a knights templar was foolish, no offence to the KT's

But the actions you have displayed over a long period of time,ignoring real true trail markers and signs like this one of mammothman is case in point, classic Kenworthy and everybody even the newbies know it..
and my suppositions are the only thing that answer your rather bizarre behavior, especially for a treasure hunting site, in which you seem to be running a subforum of a treasure denying site- paired with a terminal no clue critic and a sprinkling of pareidoliacs, this motely crew has taken a lot of the enjoyment out this hobby.. I would ask you point blank to curtail this type of behavior immediately...

your operating in the past sir, no more vague references of the code not being real, of the code not being breakable, of having to be "bestowed" the solutions..well that is ancient history now so if I seem over the top it is because your beliefs are left behind.

I dont have to 'sell' my ideas, I give away proof to everyone who wants their site marked and [they number close to 100 in the last 90 days] decoded..just as you did with your bit of trickery in your only thread 'real or memorex' when you got your little site decoded. thanks it's cool I dont feel tricked as I mark all who need the service friend or foe*, pro or newbie...I enjoy the work and it is my giving back in general after spending 25+ years in the pursuit of breaking the Spanish Code...and for the ones who helped me along the way, like your buddy dign aka dign4it..pay forward and pay back all at the same time, life is grand
when you know what is really up and who people really are and their obvious intentions.
rangler

least be original please. [besides this was not a protest - more of an expose']
peace out :hello:
rangler

* pareidoliacs excepted or course~![and easily ignored]
 

Springfield said:
rangler said:
..... Springfield was exactly in correct [as usual] .....

..... Here is a perfect example that Springfleild has lost ALL credibility .......

...... he is working as a mouth piece for the Jesuits .....

..... has cut the same deal with the added duty to stay online like a knight templar of old and protect the mother church.....

.... I ask you to think about his look over his last 50 posts ....

Your comments are ... uh ... a bit over the top, don't you think? Why focus on my facts, R? Maybe instead you should be trying to sell your own ideas. Methinks you protesteth too much. By the way, I invite your pals to review all my old posts - I stand behind them.

Why focus on my facts, Why focus on my facts, Why focus on my facts, Why focus on my facts, Why focus on my facts,.

What do you candider your best post. I may need to put it in my notebook.

I would like to have coffee with you some time, as I go to New Mexico often. Or a chela.
 

Pala Y Pico said:
...... 1) Why focus on my facts, 2) Why focus on my facts, 3) Why focus on my facts, 4) Why focus on my facts, 5) Why focus on my facts ......

1) So that you might consider a number of alternatives before you decide
2) So that you may be encouraged to become a truth seeker above all else
3) So you might learn how to decide if something is real or not
4) So that you don't get caught up in cult worship
5) Because, although I'm occasionally wrong, I'm usually correct
 

Hi Mammothman, I was with my brother checking the production of some oil wells just North of Jal, the last time I was there.

I have family in Eunice.

Nice picture.
 

Think of this as a pubic service for true trackers and argonauts:

Steve has backed himself into a corner and outstayed his usefulness here on this site.
here is what he is really saying when you translate his spin words to plain english.

1) So that you might consider a number of alternatives before you decide
translation: So I can influence you to drop thus silly treasure notions


2) So that you may be encouraged to become a truth seeker above all else
T: So that others would see how foolish you look.

3) you might learn how to decide if something is real or not
T:So that you might just drop this whole treasure sign foolishness

4) So that you don't get caught up in cult worship
T:: So that you dont believe the one guy who has broken the code

5) Because, although I'm occasionally wrong, I'm usually correct
T: though I am usually wrong, I can spin it like I am right

which makes me smarter than you - that means I know better than you.
and all of you need to get a better hobby because those treasures in the ground belong
to the their rightful owners, the Mother Chruch~! nuff said.


See once you break one code, the rest of the 'codes' are easy to break~!

oro for all
rangler

ps thanks for all the pm request for the scorecards/extended for one more week.
 

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