Trade Bracelet (Solved:Info in 1st post)

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Joan Whatton
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Jondre` Appraisal Services, LLC
August 25, 2011

I have closely examined the information you have submitted. Thank you for the images and descriptive information. My findings are based on this information.
Your item is a brass slave bracelet from Africa; the bracelet has the "horns" at the end indicative of African slave bracelets. I would date the bracelet C. 1700-1750.
You stated it was found in an area where the Saponi Indians once lived. The Saponi were originally from Virginia and North Carolina, many later relocated to Ontario, Canada, Georgia, Tennessee and Ohio and disappeared from the historical record as a tribe by the end of the 18th century (1700-1750). The interesting facts about the Saponi are that they were at one time classified by some anthropologists as being known as tri-racial isolates. Records have shown that the Saponi had European, African and Native American ancestry in varying degrees, the above mentioned tri-racial groups did settle and create communities in frontier and border areas of the southern states.
The first slaves were brought from Africa to SOUTH Carolina in 1670 and North Carolina did not play a large part in the early slave trade, but North Carolina did rely on slaves for carpentry, masonry, and construction as well as agriculture.
The bracelet is very similar to 18th century African slave bracelets. North Carolina jewelry made by Native American tribes in the 18th century were made out of bone, shells, polished stones, beads, copper, and from brass obtained from white traders. The Saponi would not have had access to metals unless it was a trade to them by the European settlers (not made by the Saponi, but worn by a tribe member).
The value would be between $95.00 and $125.00 in today's retail market. The market comparison approach to value was used which estimates value by comparison with properties sold in the relevant market, with adjustments made for all differences that affect value, such as differences in characteristics of value, in market layer, and in time. The values listed below may vary depending on how and where it is marketed.

Kindest regards,
Joan Whatton
American Society of Appraisers
Jondre` Appraisal Services, LLC


Thanks again to all who were involved in helping ID this bracelet. I've posted it under TODAY'S FINDS, and here is the link:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,419944.0.html

;D Breezie



Hey folks, We had a break in our hot/humid weather, so I was able to MD this afternoon. I found this unusual bracelet in an old pit area where the dirt had been dug out and banked-up about 15+ feet. I think it is copper or bronze, but am not sure. It is heavy for its size and weights 16.2 grams. It doesn't open/move easily; I can move the 2 open ends, but only less than 1/4 inch or so. Of course, I could pull it apart using main strength, but in other words, it's strong to be slightly over 1/8" wide. I don't think it is an arthritis bracelet because it is too narrow to have very much medicinal value. It's too strong and primitive to be a bangle from the 70's. I've dealt with right much Victorian jewelry, but this one has been stumped. Thanks in advance for any help. ;D Breezie
 

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Re: Unusual Bracelet

traderoftreasures said:
wonder if that could be a hog ring ?

ToT, I'm not familiar with hogs, except for on a BLT sandwich. :laughing7: Would it be 2 1/2 inches in diameter? Thanks, Breezie
 

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Can't help you with the ID Breezie, but a cool find. What kind of pit was it, date wise? Anything else found there?
HH,
Bunker
 

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Bunker said:
Can't help you with the ID Breezie, but a cool find. What kind of pit was it, date wise? Anything else found there?
HH,
Bunker

Thanks Bucker, Actually I guess pit was not the right word. It's a large area, probably 2 acres or more that was dug-out to make a park with tennis, basketball courts, etc. The dirt was pushed to the outer edges and made a steep bank. I didn't find anything else of significance because I received a phone call and had to leave, but will definitely go back. Breezie
 

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Re: Unusual Bracelet

Hi D.
I thought crude Bull nose ring at first, but I'm not sure. It has some age to it for sure. Very interesting
 

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Woodland Detectors said:
Hi D.
I thought crude Bull nose ring at first, but I'm not sure. It has some age to it for sure. Very interesting

Hey M, after ToT thought it could be a hog ring, I googled/read about bull rings, and I think this is too thin for a hog or bull, and it doesn't have a hinge, but my knowledge on bull rings is limited to an hour of googling, so I really not sure. Thanks, Breezie
 

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Information Update:

Today I found out the area where I found the bracelet was once inhabited by the Saponi Indians. There was a Tribe living within a 2000 foot radius. One of the neighborhood people said when he was having his swimming pool dug, they found many broken pots and other Native American artifacts. Now I'm leaning toward a trade bracelet of some type. Any thoughts? Breezie
 

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Re: Trade Bracelet or Hog Ring?(Info Update)

Seeing the side view, I was going to say it looked like a snap (retainer) ring, but after seeing the ends, I would say old bracelet or keyring. Tony
 

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Re: Trade Bracelet or Hog Ring?(Info Update)

I think you should take it to the University Donna and let them take a look. If it is a Native American bracelet, it's a Banner find!
 

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Woodland Detectors said:
I think you should take it to the University Donna and let them take a look. If it is a Native American bracelet, it's a Banner find!

M, great idea. As soon as I hear, I'll post the information. Thanks again, Breezie
 

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Re: Trade Bracelet or Hog Ring?(Info Update)

We raised a few hogs on our acreage when I was a child. Hog rings were smaller and had sharp points to penetrate the flesh when squeezed shut with a set of special pliars. Hog rings were used to keep the hogs from rooting under the fence and getting out of the pen. I'm not sure what you have Breezie but it ain't a hog ring. You come up with some of the most interesting finds. Love to read your posts. Monty
 

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Thanks Monty and RelicDude for your post. Monty, I really was not sure why farmers put rings in hog/pin noses so I appreciate the explanation. It makes perfect sense, and I'm a large fan of 'common sense.'

I still haven't heard any word from the 'experts' yet on the bracelet, but will update when I do.
;D Donna
 

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my vote indain trade copper / bronze bracelet * nice.............. :icon_thumright:

note the flatted rounded "smoothed" ends --to avoid causing harm to a person * --if it was a hog or bull nose ring it would have sharp points on the ends to help pierce the tough flesh of the animals --the design of the item helps to explain the use of the item logically speaking. :icon_thumright:
 

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Re: Trade Bracelet or Hog Ring?(Info Update)

ivan salis said:
my vote indain trade copper / bronze bracelet * nice.............. :icon_thumright:

note the flatted rounded "smoothed" ends --to avoid causing harm to a person * --if it was a hog or bull nose ring it would have sharp points on the ends to help pierce the tough flesh of the animals --the design of the item helps to explain the use of the item logically speaking. :icon_thumright:

Thank you Ivan for your post, and I agree, especially since I found it in an area where Native Americans lived. I think I'll post this in the Native American section of TNet to hear their ideas. ;D Breezie
 

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MTC; I'm kind of in line with Tony and think an old key ring. :dontknow:
I know I've seen those ends before... :icon_scratch:
I'll look forward to hearing what it really is.
 

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I have to agree with Monty.

We've raised lots of hogs - and calves and cows. That's not like any ring we've ever used. It crossed my mind that it could be a version of a "can't suck", but I'm not sure how effective it would be.


Beth
 

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