✅ SOLVED Toothed Lead Wedge with Tabs

[steelheadwill]

Hi all,
found this item, size and shape of an ax or hammer handle wedge.
(I thought there was a specific name for these, but can't recall it)
I figure the difficulty of getting a lead wedge into a hickory handle rules out the above.
Design visible, looks like more than just casting marks...?
Also wondering about the two tabs on the 'top'.
the site where it was recovered was a shoemakers home/workshop.
(and he was a CW Veteran)
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this, Thanks for looking !!

 

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[BosnMate]

Turn it over, it's part of a wall for a small toy fort?

 

[steelheadwill]

Interesting idea, early "Lego's"

 

[LuckyThirteen08]

Hmmmmm,Interesting for sure but i have no idea what it could be. Best of luck in your ID!

HH John

 

[Breezie]

Turn it over, it's part of a wall for a small toy fort?

I think BosnMate is on the right track. Back during the 1950's Marx was the major toy maker of tin forts, farms, train depots, ranches, rodeo, etc. Is your find made of tin? If so, it's probably part of one of these playsets. If it is made of lead, I would suspect it is part of a playset (same as the tin, just made of lead) from Britains or similar lead company. Interesting find, Breezie

 

[steelheadwill]

Thanks Lucky and Breezie,
It is lead, or a high lead alloy of sorts.
I've looked at a lot of toy sets,
seems that tin or cardboard is all I find for castle/Fort pieces.
The size of this is an issue, it's maybe 1-1/4" square, too small for a wall or palisade imo.
top trim piece for castle wall? this is getting too intricate for toy set I think....
Many of 'Britains' toys were several items in one piece, like fence/gate/stonewall,
maybe this is a broken off section of something...
Just thought of an important clue. the site where it was recovered was a shoemakers home/workshop.
(and he was a CW Veteran)
thanks for the input !! Best Wishes, Herbie

 

[steelheadwill]

Hmmm, maybe a Picket fence section with woodgrain pattern from one of the 'scenery' pieces?
There's many pages of 'Britain' lead toys for me to search, I like this one
VILLAGE IDIOT

 

[Breezie]

Thanks Lucky and Breezie,
It is lead, or a high lead alloy of sorts.
I've looked at a lot of toy sets,
seems that tin or cardboard is all I find for castle/Fort pieces.
The size of this is an issue, it's maybe 1-1/4" square, too small for a wall or palisade imo.
top trim piece for castle wall? this is getting too intricate for toy set I think....
Many of 'Britains' toys were several items in one piece, like fence/gate/stonewall,
maybe this is a broken off section of something...
Just thought of an important clue. the site where it was recovered was a shoemakers home/workshop.
(and he was a CW Veteran)
thanks for the input !! Best Wishes, Herbie

Herbie, With the well defined wood grain pattern (even has knots), the picket top, and the major clue: 'tabs,' I do think it is part of a lead/pot metal set from the 1940/50's. With the 1 1/4 inch size, it would be a perfect back/tailgate for a limber or some type of cart. Although I couldn't see any 'wooden' details in this group because the photo is not large enough, but the theory is still the same. Heyde, Heinrichsen, Scholz & Similar | Vectis Toy Auctions

on the village who is missing an idiot! That's a great example that soldiers, cowboys, and Indians were not the only lead characters made. Breezie

 

[Subterranean]

Interesting toy stockade wall. If you consider that Britains soldiers were 54mm high, (about three fingers width) then this is too little to protect them. So, the scale is meant for much smaller lead or tin soldiers, probably from a make-them-yourself-at-home kit from the prewar era. I could find no photos of this type of stockade wall in all of my reference books, sorry. The little tabs allow this wall to stand alone on its own. It is definitely military, IMHO, as nearly all military (fort or battle scene) walls are log-pole, damaged brick, or barbed wire in toy sets. All domestic sets (farm, ranch, western,) have walls and fences which are rail, intact brick, or picket fence. Just a little toy soldier intuition. Congrats! Sub

 

[steelheadwill]

Thanks Breezie and Sub,
we'll close this one as 'toy part'
appreciate everyones replies!
Breezie, my favorite lead toys are the animals I've found. HH All ! herbie.

 

[Breezie]

Thanks Breezie and Sub,
we'll close this one as 'toy part'
appreciate everyones replies!
Breezie, my favorite lead toys are the animals I've found. HH All ! herbie.

Cool Herbie! Both of those are in great shape! I've got a couple headless horsemen and a few Britains; all look rode hard and put up wet. I found a lead cat that had human facial features, and it was smaller than a penny. It was in bad condition, but still a neat find. Here's the link: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/241351-tiny-cat-human-features.html

Breezie

PS: Now go out and find the rest of the set!

 

[steelheadwill]

Cool Herbie! Both of those are in great shape! I've got a couple headless horsemen and a few Britains; all look rode hard and put up wet. I found a lead cat that had human facial features, and it was smaller than a penny. It was in bad condition, but still a neat find. Here's the link: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/241351-tiny-cat-human-features.html

Breezie

PS: Now go out and find the rest of the set!

I love the Tiny Cat, it really comes into perspective when placed on the Cent

Almost all of my first few years finds were from salt mud,
this is good for lead and pewter, lead comes out clean and black,
pewter blisters, but doesn't flake and crumble apart like from dirt.
Silver and copper do not fare well at all
Hunting these sites has turned up lots of toy soldiers, cowboys and indians...



found another animal, a little cow.




My favorite cat related find was a sterling cat bell displaying 'Puss n Boots'
Anyhow, the cat bell is somewhat squashed, you can just make out
the 'sterling' mark, and its slightly purple tint is typical of salt silver.
"Puss in Boots was made a great lord and wore the most beautiful clothes"
The story of Puss in Boots
note those pantaloons,




I also like the three handwrought lead anchors I've found, rather like toys,
but I think these were made by sailors
during their idle hours as was scrimshaw. showing the nicest example here:


Sometimes the 'mundane' personal finds from the days of old are more interesting
than the coins and buttons of which thousands if not millions were made.
Nice hearing from you! good day, Herbie