Took a gambel on Two Shadow Boxes...

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After open for three days, I went back at 3:30 and bought two shadow box frames with "old jewelry" inside. The estate sale company had marked each one at $95, and until the last 30 minutes did not want to listen to any offers on them. The lady in charge came down to $150.00, plus State Tax, of course.....

One had a large ring that has a square Ruby in it, and what looks like a custom made gold ring made to fit it. It appears to be cast in either 10kt or 18kt, but I'll have to test it.

The other shadow box has a 1920's picture of a young lady wearing a diamond shaped Ruby pendant necklace and pin made with a long freshwater pearl. Arranged upon lace swatches around the old picture are the exact pin and pendant, two more long broach pins and a set of 1/20, 12kt, yellow gold filled rimless lady's glasses. Each piece of jewelry is not karat marked, but those two and a much larger and thicker gold broach pin appear to be handmade. On the ends of the long pearl broach pin, it appears to be cast and each end is a cat's head. I can see black investment casting sand embedded the back of the jewelry like one would use to cast in gold.... So, I've included two pics with one turn upside down for a different perspective. What year/era would you say the jewelry could have been made?

The red stones are clear and some slightly cloudy and wavy inclusions are seen off to the side. Any idea how to tell if either is Ruby?

Because of a gut feeling, and realizing that the old picture showing two of them being worn, I went out on a limb on these two shadow boxes and bought them.... I believe that even if they test out to be just 10kt, the gold should be worth more than double my cost.... but, if they are real gold, their worth as "Antique Heirloom Jewelry" may be more.

What do you think?
 

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Ruby or large Garnet, have you tested the stone?

Most Garnets I've seen have a hint of brown in them; these are a rich red.

How do you test them?
 

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Hey justbill,

I think you did well on these boxes. My favorite is the large Biwa pearl with the lion, or leopard heads setting. Sure looks like gold from out here. What is the size of that fancy Biwa? I almost see Bill Field's profile if it was turned 90 degrees...

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Ahhh-Yessss, my little Chickadee... it could resemble him...

I roughly measured the pearl: about 3/4" long and 3/8" at the widest end.

I'm glad to know the pearl has a unique name. What would you say a ballpark value of it would be, and what era was it designed for?

Thanks for you info.
 

I have almost a twin to that very ring I found awhile back . Mine is 10K and also has a beautiful Ruby . It's put away bt if I have some spare time I'll try to post a picture ... NICE ! Woodstock
After open for three days, I went back at 3:30 and bought two shadow box frames with "old jewelry" inside. The estate sale company had marked each one at $95, and until the last 30 minutes did not want to listen to any offers on them. The lady in charge came down to $150.00, plus State Tax, of course.....

One had a large ring that has a square Ruby in it, and what looks like a custom made gold ring made to fit it. It appears to be cast in either 10kt or 18kt, but I'll have to test it.

The other shadow box has a 1920's picture of a young lady wearing a diamond shaped Ruby pendant necklace and pin made with a long freshwater pearl. Arranged upon lace swatches around the old picture are the exact pin and pendant, two more long broach pins and a set of 1/20, 12kt, yellow gold filled rimless lady's glasses. Each piece of jewelry is not karat marked, but those two and a much larger and thicker gold broach pin appear to be handmade. On the ends of the long pearl broach pin, it appears to be cast and each end is a cat's head. I can see black investment casting sand embedded the back of the jewelry like one would use to cast in gold.... So, I've included two pics with one turn upside down for a different perspective. What year/era would you say the jewelry could have been made?

The red stones are clear and some slightly cloudy and wavy inclusions are seen off to the side. Any idea how to tell if either is Ruby?

Because of a gut feeling, and realizing that the old picture showing two of them being worn, I went out on a limb on these two shadow boxes and bought them.... I believe that even if they test out to be just 10kt, the gold should be worth more than double my cost.... but, if they are real gold, their worth as "Antique Heirloom Jewelry" may be more.

What do you think?
 

Hey justbill,

If that setting is 18K, I'd guess that you more than paid for the lot with that piece, alone. Perhaps twice over, or more. I'd like to see more photos of it; front & back. It looks Edwardian to me, as does the necklace and the other brooch. Internet jewelry appraisal is not my forte, but the casting looks good, and the Pearl has character.

"In 1914, pearl farmers began growing cultured freshwater pearls using the pearl mussels native to Lake Biwa. This lake, the largest and most ancient in Japan, lies near the city of Kyoto. The extensive and successful use of the Biwa Pearl Mussel is reflected in the name Biwa pearls, a phrase which was at one time nearly synonymous with freshwater pearls in general. Since the time of peak production in 1971, when Biwa pearl farmers produced six tons of cultured pearls, pollution has caused the virtual extinction of the industry. Japanese pearl farmers recently cultured a hybrid pearl mussel – a cross between Biwa Pearl Mussels and a closely related species from China, Hyriopsis cumingi, in Lake Kasumigaura. This industry has also nearly ceased production, due to pollution." Pearl - Wiki

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I have almost a twin to that very ring I found awhile back . Mine is 10K and also has a beautiful Ruby . It's put away bt if I have some spare time I'll try to post a picture ... NICE ! Woodstock

I always wanted to give my wife a large diamond or ruby ring, but my metal detecting days have found only a pear shaped 1/4 carat diamond
and a rose gold 10kt ring with nine small rubies. I would be elated if this square stone is a true ruby,
our 42nd wedding anniversary is coming in August.

I'd would like to see what yours looks like. How did you get the stone verified?
 

Take it to a reputable jeweler to have the stones tested. It will not be a real ruby in the ring, it is too large. There are many types of garnet, not all have a brown tint. They have been making synthetic ruby and sapphire since the early 1900s and it was really popular in the 1920s and 1930s and is still used today. Only a gemologist can tell for sure since the hardness will be the same for a natural ruby as a synthetic one. In general a ruby that large if a natural ruby would only have been used in a high end piece of jewelry which your plain ring isn't. Good luck with the testing and the gold testing, too, but most was marked, and if by a good maker deeply marked with the karat.
 

I think you did well and I think it will test better than 10k. JMHO
 

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