To those of us that served

[onfire]

And even the one's that didn't.. Monday is not only a day of hot dogs and family get together s But it's a day were we have to salute all those living and those who have pasted, Giving us the freedom of something as simple as writing on these threads.

Remember to fly your flags high and be proud and thankful for what we have. Bless.

Take time to watch this clip.

 

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[pippinwhitepaws]

U.S. Memorial Day History and Information on U.S. War Memorials

 

[GMD52]

You vets. are the heart and sole of our country, we are proud to be in your circle of friends. Thank you again for your service!

 

[DeepseekerADS]

Okay, I have opened up a little bit here on a number of threads. So I may as well reveal a bit of my liberal side.

I am a combat veteran, Vietnam and Cambodia.

After getting to know the people there (Vietnam), I was absolutely against that war. I am against all war.

Yet I also realize needs under certain circumstances. I have not seen valid reason since WWII. Korea, maybe. Vietnam is a hard pill for me to swallow.

And then it comes down to what the soldiers see.

Even being against the war as a soldier there, it comes down to life or death.

Seeing many die, your friends beside you and all hell in front of you there is only one choice - living or dying. We, as soldiers, the ground men have to make that choice or it is us.

And then after it is all over, some polished up staff officers come in and look it all over, and then fly out again. They get medals to do that, pros that they are.

That's a medal swap, the officer's corp - kinda like Mr. Kerry.....

I hated that.

Came home and kept my mouth shut for over 40 years, and will continue to do so as far as details go.

I AM ANTI-WAR

Even as a conservative. Being a conservative, my concern is about the government and the future of my children.

Let the rest of the world work it out themselves, and let's give them no more arms or money. And when we clearly see that they really do threaten us....

It is our right to vaporize them.

I was a soldier, and I absolutely do not intend any kind of disrespect to any veterans out there. We as soldiers have always done what we had to do - whether for this nation, or for immediate survival.

Respect us for that.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I severed in USAF during Nam, 1967-1971, on B52s over Nam, Cambodia and Laos..

Every time I see a soldier in uniform I go up shake his or her hand and thank them for their service, if possible I buy them a drink if the situation is where it is possible.......It doesn't matter where I am when I see a soldier, plane, street, restaurant, bar makes no difference to me, I go up and thank them....I have been doing that for years, I will do it till the day I die or I am no longer able to walk over to one....

Even though I am a vet, I still feel I owe every soldier a debt that can never be repaid, the least I can do is thank him or her for their service and sacriface.....

 

[onfire]

Thanks deep.. We who coshed and those who were picked I'm sure all were against WAR We were young then as they are now.
It was after the trip home we smacked our foreheads and asked WTF have I done and why was I there. I and you and all the others went for our own reasons like you said not for someones Else's. to make a few look good.
Yes the bush was no fun I only made it to the river to repair PBR"s and Mikes did a Zippo once.... Impressive.

 

[onfire]

Ditto TH

 

[DeepseekerADS]

Thanks TH for those words. absolutely certainly not for me, but for those others who serve.

Unless you have seen it you cannot understand, ever.

It is the new generation who needs our recognition. We are the generation of the past.

 

[DeepseekerADS]

Thanks Onfire

 

[DeepseekerADS]

Here's a very contemporary article on the meaning of Memorial Day:

Memorial Day Is Our Nation's Final Exam

 

[Bum Luck]

Here's another lonely fight: The fight for our government.

I can't say anything that comes even close to the eloquence of a Civil War major named Sullivan Ballou in a letter to his wife Sarah.

Here is a portion of that letter, which has unfortunately not survived:

I have no misgivings about, or lack of confidence in, the cause in which I am engaged, and my courage does not halt or falter. I know how strongly American Civilization now leans upon the triumph of the Government, and how great a debt we owe to those who went before us through the blood and suffering of the Revolution. And I am willing—perfectly willing—to lay down all my joys in this life, to help maintain this Government, and to pay that debt.

Here's a link to the entire letter, which bears reading in its whole:
Sullivan Ballou - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sullivan was killed a week later, in the first Battle of Bull Run, July 21, 1861.

Thank you all for serving to maintain our Government.

 

[Crispin]

Thank you to all those who have served, from my family to yours. It is an honor to serve some of you in return.

Crispin

 

[PsychMSN]

Crispin says "We are not afraid of a government takeover...arf! Drink Guinness."

Yet I agree with Treasure Hunter; We are not supposed to vote on our RIGHTS. Yet there are people tying to take away our rights through the vote. Mr. Crispin, I think you drink too much Guinness and have your head in the sand. I work with many who are very afraid of a government takeover; many who have served and have a good understanding of what is going on; God Bless them.

 

[GMD52]

MSN,

I see that you are new here, and welcome.
Having said that I think you should know that Crispin is an MD, and knows what he is posting. Agree or disagree, Know who you are addressing before posting!

 

[onfire]

Crispin says "We are not afraid of a government takeover...arf! Drink Guinness."

Yet I agree with Treasure Hunter; We are not supposed to vote on our RIGHTS. Yet there are people tying to take away our rights through the vote. Mr. Crispin, I think you drink too much Guinness and have your head in the sand. I work with many who are very afraid of a government takeover; many who have served and have a good understanding of what is going on; God Bless them.

Msn Most posts here can be very informative, some are tongue in cheek some are offensive. Take them all with a rebuttal or just read and enjoy.
Crispin can be annoying sometimes but I as many enjoy his wisdom. Sometimes he can take a jab and sometimes he can't Just that makes him human.
His point on that thread is conversation I'm sure deep inside he has a fear of some sort of take over Not in the sense your implying. anyway welcome to this site have fun with it. sometimes we all need a blast in the A$$.

 

[PsychMSN]

Hello GMD52,

Thank you for your welcome.
Should I take this as a warning?

So what you are telling me is that because Mr. Crispin is an MD he is also qualified to speak on issues such as the constitutionality of law, our Bill of Rights and the irrelevance of a governments possibly hidden agenda after he's had a few too many glasses of Guinness? Did he learn about this in medical school?

Just curious, what type of doctor are you Mr.Crispin?

 

[Bum Luck]

Crispin says "We are not afraid of a government takeover...arf! Drink Guinness."

Yet I agree with Treasure Hunter; We are not supposed to vote on our RIGHTS. Yet there are people tying to take away our rights through the vote. Mr. Crispin, I think you drink too much Guinness and have your head in the sand. I work with many who are very afraid of a government takeover; many who have served and have a good understanding of what is going on; God Bless them.

With RIGHTS come RESPONSIBILITIES.

The US Government is your government, and mine too. Figure it out. Times wastin'.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

PSY, if Crispin doesn't believe in some of the posts about the government made that is fine...He started the thread and titled it as such. He is a respected member here, please do not attack him....

 

[bill from lachine]

MSN,

Just so you know Crispin is a practicing MD and psychiatrist so obviously has a pretty good handle on things in both fields fyi.

Regards + HH

Bill

Hello GMD52,

Thank you for your welcome.
Should I take this as a warning?

So what you are telling me is that because Mr. Crispin is an MD he is also qualified to speak on issues such as the constitutionality of law, our Bill of Rights and the irrelevance of a governments possibly hidden agenda after he's had a few too many glasses of Guinness? Did he learn about this in medical school?

Just curious, what type of doctor are you Mr.Crispin?

 

[0121stockpicker]

In the end everyone is entitled to an opinion and the right to voice that opinion. (As long as its within site rules of course). I have no problem with someone making or question a statement as long as its done in an intelligent respectful manner and without personal attacks. We all have something to learn and we all have something to teach. Just my 2 cents. Best.