To anyone who has found and posted a lion head for ID (I know Ive seen a few)

[Iron Patch]

To anyone who has found and posted a lion head for ID (I know I've seen a few)

We often think they are off an old door knocker, but these might be worth a 2nd look.


BALDRIC DEVICE, C. 1850


The baldric is a highly ornamented wide sash normally worn by drum majors and sometimes by band leaders. During at least part of the Civil War, baldrics were worn by some aides-de-camp, and the 1902 uniform regulations specified them for Signal Corps officers. This specimen and the one that follows are the earlier of several examples in the national collections; they fall in the early 1850's. The shield, suspended from a lion's mouth by small chains, carries an eagle with a shield on its breast. The stars and edge of clouds, above, are somewhat similar to those on the 1851 regulation waist-belt plate. The whole is superimposed on a three-quarter sunburst. Both the lion's head and the shield are fitted with simple wire fasteners for attachment.

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Family Maps of Hinds County, Mississippi, Deluxe Edition - Grab it through Amazon!

[timekiller]

Right on,I tell ya they were on alot of things from the end of the 19th century & into the early 20th.One I know of well are umbrella stands only cause I've got a couple handed down from my grandparents that have past.
Much like these...............................lion head umbrella stand - Google Search

 

[kuger]

Cool info IP,ya never know


Hey who ya got this weekend....Silva?

 

[Iron Patch]

Cool info IP,ya never know


Hey who ya got this weekend....Silva?

You'd have to think that, but I think I heard that Bonnar has never been knocked out or submitted. If that's the case, and i hope it is, that means it's going to be a war.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

That same lion-head "baldric device" has been in use a lot later than the 1902 US army regulations might indicate. Here's a photo of a World War Two era Russian Navy Officer dagger-belt ...originally posted here at TN by CharlieP. (Also, note the snake attached to the bottom of one of the lion-heads, which connected to a second lion-head on the belt's other end.) Most 1800s-era ones are British. It's another relic that some people very much want to believe is an American Civil War relic, but in actual fact, very few are. Collectors should be careful not to automatically accept the claims of relic-sellers on Ebay (and elsewhere). For example, about half of the Solid Shot (solid, not hollow explosive) cannonballs on Ebay are actually Mining-&-Stonemilling Industry rock-crusher balls.

 

[hotrod]

very cool

 

[kuger]

You'd have to think that, but I think I heard that Bonnar has never been knocked out or submitted. If that's the case, and i hope it is, that means it's going to be a war.

...I can only hope...I like Bonnar..sorry for the "jack.......

 

[kuger]

That same lion-head "baldric device" has been in use a lot later than the 1902 US army regulations might indicate. Here's a photo of a World War Two era Russian Navy Officer dagger-belt ...originally posted here at TN by CharlieP. (Also, note the snake attached to the bottom of one of the lion-heads, which connected to a second lion-head on the belt's other end.) Most 1800s-era ones are British. It's another relic that some people very much want to believe is an American Civil War relic, but in actual fact, very few are. Collectors should be careful not to automatically accept the claims of relic-sellers on Ebay (and elsewhere). For example, about half of the Solid Shot (solid, not hollow explosive) cannonballs on Ebay are actually Mining-&-Stonemilling Industry rock-crusher balls.

Boy,you can say that again....if I was an unscrupulous sort,I would be rich!Tumbler Balls are common round here!!

 

[Iron Patch]

...I can only hope...I like Bonnar..sorry for the "jack.......

No worries, I believe in free speech on every thread. What worries me is you can make a pretty good case on paper for Bonnar, but then you look at him being fairly even with Griffin, and look what Silva did to Griffin.

 

[kuger]

No worries, I believe in free speech on every thread. What worries me is you can make a pretty good case on paper for Bonnar, but then you look at him being fairly even with Griffin, and look what Silva did to Griffin.

Right,he is all in and in the .probably,last fight of his career.Has to bring his "A",game and get lucky if nothing else

 

[steelheadwill]

Thanks IP, I need to look thru my lions