To all my homies...
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twistidd
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Bomber,
Thanks for the recommendation. My Ace was purchased from Ron by my sisters for a gift once, but I didn't know that until later. He's a great guy to do business with, as you've claimed.
I saw your DFX sitting there, and he told me why it was there, and that he was actually expecting you there soon. I was gonna stick around but it looked like it was going to pour, and indeed it did.
I ran an initial test with the M6 in a small, rarely-used grassy section of a local park that I had hit hard a few times. The M6 found some deeper wheats and many almost-wheats that the Ace missed , but no silver. At the camp, it performed exceptionally well, even though Kermit still found a silver and I didn't. Oh well! Thanks again.
Joe
Thanks for the recommendation. My Ace was purchased from Ron by my sisters for a gift once, but I didn't know that until later. He's a great guy to do business with, as you've claimed.
I saw your DFX sitting there, and he told me why it was there, and that he was actually expecting you there soon. I was gonna stick around but it looked like it was going to pour, and indeed it did.
I ran an initial test with the M6 in a small, rarely-used grassy section of a local park that I had hit hard a few times. The M6 found some deeper wheats and many almost-wheats that the Ace missed , but no silver. At the camp, it performed exceptionally well, even though Kermit still found a silver and I didn't. Oh well! Thanks again.
Joe
MD Dog
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Well I started out to correct you and say there's no such thing as homies in Illinois, but then I saw your from Chicago and realized I just got schooled so I'll just shut up and move along. Congrats on the new tector BTW But I'll bet you'll find it doesn't make that much difference after awhile.
twistidd
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MD,
Thanks for the congrats, but I've already noticed a big difference between the efficiency of the Ace 250 and the M6. The two detectors aren't even in the same category. I used to have an M6 before I foolishly sold it and wasn't able to use it enough to see the difference.
In fact, even the Ace 250, in conjuntion with the bigger coil now available for it, absolutely murders the Ace 250 with the standard coil. Ask anyone of us who have seen TreasureFiend use his. We've compared the two detectors in the field, and there's no doubt it's picking up targets that the standard coil doesn't. I'm not implying the standard coil/Ace 250 combo is not a good setup- it is- I'm just saying, with the standard Ace 250 setup, you're going to be somewhat limited.
I also like judging the depth and identification of a target by sound and not display, and in that regard, the M6 is better. With the Ace, the only way you can tell the depth of an object is by looking at the depth I.D., or, by concluding the approximate depth by how much the Ace delays on deeper targets. I prefer the seven tone option on the M6 and I really like seeking those "whispers", the distant-sounding, higher tones.
Keep in mind, that I didn't buy the M6 to "replace" the Ace, per say, but instead to use it to dig the deeper targets I knew I had been missing all along with the Ace. I will continue to use the Ace as my tot lot detector.
Bomber, actually, he was about to charge me extra when I told him I knew you.
lol, jk, yeah, he took care of me. I got a great deal, with superior service. Thanks again for the recommendation.
Joe
Thanks for the congrats, but I've already noticed a big difference between the efficiency of the Ace 250 and the M6. The two detectors aren't even in the same category. I used to have an M6 before I foolishly sold it and wasn't able to use it enough to see the difference.
In fact, even the Ace 250, in conjuntion with the bigger coil now available for it, absolutely murders the Ace 250 with the standard coil. Ask anyone of us who have seen TreasureFiend use his. We've compared the two detectors in the field, and there's no doubt it's picking up targets that the standard coil doesn't. I'm not implying the standard coil/Ace 250 combo is not a good setup- it is- I'm just saying, with the standard Ace 250 setup, you're going to be somewhat limited.
I also like judging the depth and identification of a target by sound and not display, and in that regard, the M6 is better. With the Ace, the only way you can tell the depth of an object is by looking at the depth I.D., or, by concluding the approximate depth by how much the Ace delays on deeper targets. I prefer the seven tone option on the M6 and I really like seeking those "whispers", the distant-sounding, higher tones.
Keep in mind, that I didn't buy the M6 to "replace" the Ace, per say, but instead to use it to dig the deeper targets I knew I had been missing all along with the Ace. I will continue to use the Ace as my tot lot detector.
Bomber, actually, he was about to charge me extra when I told him I knew you.
lol, jk, yeah, he took care of me. I got a great deal, with superior service. Thanks again for the recommendation.
Joe
MD Dog
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I'm sure the M6 prolly is a lot deeper than the ace or alot of other detectors, I just have a thing about people always assuming that the reason their not finding the "Good" stuff is because there machines don't go deep enough or aren't sensitive enough or don't like the mineralized soils etc.... Truth is people aren't going to where the "Good" stuff is. You may be able to go eight feet deep one day and find what others have missed in days gone by. But honestly would you rather dig even 6 inches if you only had to dig 2. All you prolly really need is to look in the right locations and you'll have far more depth than you'll need. But then as long as your happy and it sounds like Bomber got you a really good deal so Bravo you rock and I hope you'll be posting lotsa really good finds real soon. 
MD Dog
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maybe you or Bomber can help this fellow ?
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,156178.0/topicseen.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,156178.0/topicseen.html
twistidd
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MD,
I know what you mean by people automatically assuming a more expensive detector equal more success. I don't necessarily agree with that idea. However, I do prefer the extra options I am given with the M6. That's pretty much what I meant.
I have dug old coins above the four-inch mark, but that's the minority. Most older coins out in the open are deeper than that, at least in the area I'm in. And keep in mind, there's a lot of competition here in the area, so having more options helps me. I find that in wooded areas, many coins tend to not sink as fast. I've watches as seated coins, Barbers, and Indian heads were pulled from a shallow hole in the woods. TreasureFiend got a '35 buffalo nickel practically on the surface there. Those are coins my Ace can pick up. The Ace, however, does NOT give me a good repeatable signal past 4-5 inches on large coins. I could dig every non-repeatable, broken, one-way signal and for for every silver dime I find, I'll dig 3 pounds of foil and pulltabs and nails. To me, it's not worth it.
The M6 has given me the opportunity to find deeper coins easily because I get good, repeatable signals. I dug an old copper button the other day at about 8-9 inches. It rang up as a penny, of course, because of its size and composition. It is something I would have never found with the Ace (with standard coil). TreasureFiend would have found it because he has a big coil on his Ace.
I am aware of many good areas to hunt and I do frequent them. I'm currently hunting one of the most productive places in the area, with a great group of guys, and we've all found awesome things there, using detectors ranging from an Ace 250 w/ standard coil, to DFXs and Minelabs SEs. I realize that in the end, it's the research and knowledge of history that can determine one's success in this hobby. But, having a great place to hunt, and using a machine that's depth-challenged, can be a little frustrating. You know? I've been followed by Minelab guys who have, literally, pulled 10-15 mercury dimes on my trail (when using the Ace). The Ace wouldn't even hiccup at a dime 12-15 inches down.
Thank you for the good wishes, I am in fact very happy with my M6 and plan on pulling a lot more older coins out of the ground with it. It is an awesome metal detector, I'd recommend it to anyone who seeks a somewhat more advanced detector, but doesn't have a ton of cash.
Joe
I know what you mean by people automatically assuming a more expensive detector equal more success. I don't necessarily agree with that idea. However, I do prefer the extra options I am given with the M6. That's pretty much what I meant.
I have dug old coins above the four-inch mark, but that's the minority. Most older coins out in the open are deeper than that, at least in the area I'm in. And keep in mind, there's a lot of competition here in the area, so having more options helps me. I find that in wooded areas, many coins tend to not sink as fast. I've watches as seated coins, Barbers, and Indian heads were pulled from a shallow hole in the woods. TreasureFiend got a '35 buffalo nickel practically on the surface there. Those are coins my Ace can pick up. The Ace, however, does NOT give me a good repeatable signal past 4-5 inches on large coins. I could dig every non-repeatable, broken, one-way signal and for for every silver dime I find, I'll dig 3 pounds of foil and pulltabs and nails. To me, it's not worth it.
The M6 has given me the opportunity to find deeper coins easily because I get good, repeatable signals. I dug an old copper button the other day at about 8-9 inches. It rang up as a penny, of course, because of its size and composition. It is something I would have never found with the Ace (with standard coil). TreasureFiend would have found it because he has a big coil on his Ace.
I am aware of many good areas to hunt and I do frequent them. I'm currently hunting one of the most productive places in the area, with a great group of guys, and we've all found awesome things there, using detectors ranging from an Ace 250 w/ standard coil, to DFXs and Minelabs SEs. I realize that in the end, it's the research and knowledge of history that can determine one's success in this hobby. But, having a great place to hunt, and using a machine that's depth-challenged, can be a little frustrating. You know? I've been followed by Minelab guys who have, literally, pulled 10-15 mercury dimes on my trail (when using the Ace). The Ace wouldn't even hiccup at a dime 12-15 inches down.
Thank you for the good wishes, I am in fact very happy with my M6 and plan on pulling a lot more older coins out of the ground with it. It is an awesome metal detector, I'd recommend it to anyone who seeks a somewhat more advanced detector, but doesn't have a ton of cash.
Joe
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