Thulium Chloride?

[itzyoboyandrew]

So I MAY have a piece of thulium, but thats not the point, yes theres been debate overt this, but just wondering.. Ive sent a piece to be idetified by a college chemist professor person...

But, does this looks like thulium chloride? i put the metal in bleach as a test.. and after a bit.. it made this weird white sugar crystal like oxide/residue on the surface of the metal, after a little bit of drying.. it turned to a, what has the appearance of dried white toothpaste... any clue what that is?

these pics are AFTER it dried:

 

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[Peyton Manning]

until this week I never heard of thulium, so I doubt I could tell what it looks like

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

So you're taling unknown metals and dunking them in Chlorox? Holy ****! Be advised there are many componds that will produce a fatal gas that's odorless (that is, it paralizes your senses before your nose detects it.) I hope you're at least doing this outdoors. Since you didn't blind yourself in the explosion we can rule out your metal as a chunk of Potassium.

Your "bleach" was presumably Sodium Hypochlorite. So when you dry it you remove the "hypo", exchange ions in the water (it is 80 to 90% water) and get Sodium Chloride (salt). "Dry" chlorine bleach powder is mostly sodium chloride (table salt). So your white spots are likely sodium salt.

https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/downloads/msds/bleach/cloroxregular-bleach12015-06-12.pdf

According to the material safety data sheet Thulium Chloride is light green. Also a skin ane eye irritant and you should be wearing protective gear if that is what you are handling.

Thulium Chloride | Thulium Chloride

Looks like metal to me. Narrows it down to 3,500 possibilities or so.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

So you're taling unknown metals and dunking them in Chlorox? Holy ****! Be advised there are many componds that will produce a fatal gas that's odorless (that is, it paralizes your senses before your nose detects it.) I hope you're at least doing this outdoors. Since you didn't blind yourself in the explosion we can rule out your metal as a chunk of Potassium.

Your "bleach" was presumably Sodium Hypochlorite. So when you dry it you remove the "hypo", exchange ions in the water (it is 80 to 90% water) and get Sodium Chloride (salt). "Dry" chlorine bleach powder is mostly sodium chloride (table salt). So your white spots are likely sodium salt.

https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/downloads/msds/bleach/cloroxregular-bleach12015-06-12.pdf

According to the material safety data sheet Thulium Chloride is light green. Also a skin ane eye irritant and you should be wearing protective gear if that is what you are handling.

Thulium Chloride | Thulium Chloride

Looks like metal to me. Narrows it down to 3,500 possibilities or so.

Then explain why when it was IN the bleach was it getting the "salt"? If its just salt then it would be dissolved in the bleach and only show once dried. This showed while in the bleach.

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

Can't say. Wasn't there. Didn't see it. Have no idea what you're mixing or what you're testing.

For all I know you've got a piece of cast tin and made stannic oxide.

 

[Nitric]

So you're taling unknown metals and dunking them in Chlorox? Holy ****! Be advised there are many componds that will produce a fatal gas that's odorless (that is, it paralizes your senses before your nose detects it.) I hope you're at least doing this outdoors. Since you didn't blind yourself in the explosion we can rule out your metal as a chunk of Potassium.

Your "bleach" was presumably Sodium Hypochlorite. So when you dry it you remove the "hypo", exchange ions in the water (it is 80 to 90% water) and get Sodium Chloride (salt). "Dry" chlorine bleach powder is mostly sodium chloride (table salt). So your white spots are likely sodium salt.

https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/downloads/msds/bleach/cloroxregular-bleach12015-06-12.pdf

According to the material safety data sheet Thulium Chloride is light green. Also a skin ane eye irritant and you should be wearing protective gear if that is what you are handling.

Thulium Chloride | Thulium Chloride

Looks like metal to me. Narrows it down to 3,500 possibilities or so.

Some of this cracks me up. I know little about chemistry. I do know about the worst head aches of your life and heart attack symptoms from playing around with stuff I shouldn't have without knowing everything about it.
I won't go into detail....getting and playing with lithium sounded harmless and fun, I didn't know about hydrofluoric acid though. Or fumes from.

 

[trikikiwi]

What makes you think it is Thulium or Thulium Chloride anyway?
From what I understand, it is not a naturally occurring material, so did you get this from a laboratory?

It's Elemental - The Element Thulium

 

[Crispin]

Dude, you are in way over your head here. It has gotten to the point where I can't even support what you are doing....

 

[Crispin]

Antimony, Sb, occurs naturally, density is similar to your eyeball measurements.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

whatevs... ill just keep quiet until i get the professors response.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

and if im wrong, ill leave the fourms in shame and humiliation probably haha.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

Still waiting to here back from the chemist. although i did a silver acid test kit on it, and came up with the colors of 65-75% silver, the first bar i found was junk tho.

 

[Nitric]

and if im wrong, ill leave the fourms in shame and humiliation probably haha.

No, It's all a part of learning and the fun! Nothing to be ashamed of or humiliated by! Just be careful! I can say that from being real lucky! A lot of times! Hey! I'm wrong more than I'm right! or maybe? ..I'm just not right? Maybe too many experiments that went all wrong!

 

[Breezie]

Do any of you old TNetters remember the person, LotsOfRocks? If so, I rest my case.

Breezie