This sure doesnt sound good.

[worldtalker]

This sure doesn't sound good.

Well,what do some say now? GodBless Chris DOJ Says UN Treaty Trumps US Constitution! | InvestmentWatch

 

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[Dave44]

Sounds like... "If you like your Constitution,, You can keep your Constitution, Period" . Are the drums louder everyday?

 

[Old Bookaroo]

worldtalker:

Golly - there's a truckload of "if's" and "could's" in that one.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

 

[Chadeaux]

Well,what do some say now? GodBless Chris DOJ Says UN Treaty Trumps US Constitution! | InvestmentWatch

The left is looking for any out to get out from under those pesky documents that created one of the wealthiest nations in history ... and while they have been busy trying to destroy it, we've become a debtor nation heading for becoming the equivalent of a third world nation like those who existed in the 1960's ... begging for a handout. Problem is, there's no one who can or will give us a handout. Looks like we're screwed.

Sounds like... "If you like your Constitution,, You can keep your Constitution, Period" . Are the drums louder everyday?

Yep, "tread on" by the enemies of this country again.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

worldtalker:

Golly - there's a truckload of "if's" and "could's" in that one.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

There is not a single valid if and could......

NOTHING TRUMPS CONSTITUTION!

And people say we are paranoid and wonder why we are buying thousands of rounds of ammo for "target practice"....

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[pippinwhitepaws]

so...now WEALTHY is the purpose of the constitution...to create wealth?

how droll...and by the way...DOJ is not the section of government that decides on the legality of an issue...that is for the supreme court...remember...executive, legislative, judicial.
not department of justice...that's the guys that kick the door in.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Treasure Hunter:

Article. VI.
...This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

That's pretty clear. Nothing in my post was to the contrary.

The piece cited is wildly speculative, full of "if's" and "could's" to the point of meaninglessness, and in my opinion gross fear-mongering.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

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[Dave44]

so...now WEALTHY is the purpose of the constitution...to create wealth?

how droll...and by the way...DOJ is not the section of government that decides on the legality of an issue...that is for the supreme court...remember...executive, legislative, judicial.
not department of justice...that's the guys that kick the door in.

So that is why this happened? There are laws you know?
Gun-Running Timeline: How DOJ?s ?Operation Fast and Furious? Unfolded | CNS News

 

[Dave44]

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That is nice PIP! We all know it.. Looks like you finally learned it, yet the BO and his AG hasn't figured it out yet.

 

[Chadeaux]

That is nice PIP! We all know it.. Looks like you finally learned it, yet the BO and his AG hasn't figured it out yet.

Yeah, Scandaldaddy still thinks he was elected Emperor ...

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Treasure Hunter:

Article. VI.
...This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

That's pretty clear. Nothing in my post was to the contrary.

The piece cited is wildly speculative, full of "if's" and "could's" to the point of meaninglessness, and in my opinion gross fear-mongering.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

The fact that any one in barrys administration would even entertain the idea speaks volumes for the administration itself. ...


Justice Department attorneys are advancing an argument at the Supreme Court that could allow the government to invoke international treaties as a legal basis for policies such as gun control that conflict with the U.S. Constitution.

United States v Bond is the case.

If confirmed by SCOTUS all any president would have to do is find another country to do his dirty work for him by signing an international treaty outlawing guns, freedom of the press, free speech what ever he wanted done. ....

No need to say how this will sit with us....We are the most heavily armed civilian population in the world and we will not go quietly in the night.

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[Old Bookaroo]

Treasure Hunter:

I don't agree with that analysis.

Issue: (1) Whether the Constitution’s structural limits on federal authority impose any constraints on the scope of Congress’ authority to enact legislation to implement a valid treaty, at least in circumstances where the federal statute, as applied, goes far beyond the scope of the treaty, intrudes on traditional state prerogatives, and is concededly unnecessary to satisfy the government’s treaty obligations; and (2) whether the provisions of the Chemical Weapons Convention Implementation Act, 18 U.S.C. § 229, can be interpreted not to reach ordinary poisoning cases, which have been adequately handled by state and local authorities since the Framing, in order to avoid the difficult constitutional questions involving the scope of and continuing vitality of this Court’s decision in Missouri v. Holland.
Bond v. United States : SCOTUSblog

BOND v. UNITED STATES

Obviously there are principles at issue here. Overriding the US Constitution with an international (what other kind is there?) treaty doesn't appear to be one of them.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Treasure Hunter:

I don't agree with that analysis.

Issue: (1) Whether the Constitution’s structural limits on federal authority impose any constraints on the scope of Congress’ authority to enact legislation to implement a valid treaty, at least in circumstances where the federal statute, as applied, goes far beyond the scope of the treaty, intrudes on traditional state prerogatives, and is concededly unnecessary to satisfy the government’s treaty obligations; and (2) whether the provisions of the Chemical Weapons Convention Implementation Act, 18 U.S.C. § 229, can be interpreted not to reach ordinary poisoning cases, which have been adequately handled by state and local authorities since the Framing, in order to avoid the difficult constitutional questions involving the scope of and continuing vitality of this Court’s decision in Missouri v. Holland.
Bond v. United States : SCOTUSblog

BOND v. UNITED STATES

Obviously there are principles at issue here. Overriding the US Constitution with an international (what other kind is there?) treaty doesn't appear to be one of them.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

DOJ under our wannabe king is challenging the previous ruling by SCOTUS if they can get a favorable ruling it opens Pandora's box for all our rights....

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[worldtalker]

TH,

People can't see the forest for the trees! GodBless Chris

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

and some people misidentify sage brush as trees

 

[austin]

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You got this wrong. It's Emperor Barry O at the top and Legislative and Judicial under him. The new federal system...

 

[Dave44]

and some people misidentify sage brush as trees

Sagebrush? That's it? Where is the rest?

 

[worldtalker]

Sagebrush? That's it? Where is the rest?

I like eating at Sagebrush,peanut hulls on the floor!

 

[golden ray]

I find it increditble (spelling) that a law suit such as this
one could even be filed !
These people should be removed from office at once. And
not in a nice way either.
Read about this here, on Treasure Net. BUT nowhere in the
local media.(of course) stray dogs & high school sports are
more 'news worthy' in their minds.