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This is why we can't have nice things. They all get broken. Quote....Native American

These are pottery pieces that we pulled out of our local creek that span many centuries. These are both Cherokee and Catawba Indian shards. The chert cutting tool was traded into the area because we have no chert in our area. These are on top of the sand after every rain. The chert tool is a special one. I've never found another.
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The black shard is Cherokee from a paddle stamping process where they carve the pattern onto a piece of wood and stamp it onto the clay. This is the earliest piece the best we can figure.
 

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I like the pottery pieces. The places I have permission to hunt are too old to have pottery. I have never found a piece at the one spot where I hunt at now. I read where when they decided to move their camp they would actually break the pots in their old camp before leaving. Then when they found their new home they would make new ones. Is this true to your area? Welcome to the site.
 

These are pottery pieces that we pulled out of our local creek that span many centuries. These are both Cherokee and Catawba Indian shards. The chert cutting tool was traded into the area because we have no chert in our area. These are on top of the sand after every rain. The chert tool is a special one. I've never found another.
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The black shard is Cherokee from a paddle stamping process where they carve the pattern onto a piece of wood and stamp it onto the clay. This is the earliest piece the best we can figure.

Are you in the NC mountains? I recognize the tribe names as NC tribes. Catawba is a mountain tribe, right? Nice looking stuff you have there.
 

I like the check stamp piece. It looks like alot of mine from the St. Johns river area in Florida.
 

Our area is the foothills of the NC mountains. Near Charlotte. Our county was the dividing lines between the Cherokee and Catawba. They settled this area in the BC and weren't nomadic. The climate is pretty mild here with plenty of game. The Catawba especially set up huge villages up and down the Catawba river. Trade was open between the two so you see a lot of mixed styles and influence on the pottery. These shards are everywhere in these creeks. I have never found an arrowhead though. Strange. I have a friend who picks the same creek further down and he has spear points and awesome pottery a lot bigger than these pieces.
 

I can get these all day long but can't metal detect the revolutionary war spots which this county is filled with. All the sites are privately held or protected. Frustrating. I would love to pull this stuff instead of letting it rust away.
 

I'll trade a week with you Rock...lol. We have opposite problems.
 

I'll trade a week with you Rock...lol. We have opposite problems.

Yes we do but most of the ones I have been finding are damaged from the plow. Once in a while I find a good point. The Cherokee were here as well as where you live. The Creek Indians were big here as well. I dont know the names for the Archaic period stuff I find. I have some frames posted further down on this page if you want to look at the artifacts I find.
 

the indains once a year would make "the black drink" --it was a form of purge drink --meant to clean out gut worms and other parasites out of your system --however it would " stain and taint" the crockery making it black in color inside and the heating process from the fire darkened the clay pots outer surface (burnt the outside) --so they busted the pots afterward and made a new set each year --the indains often rotated their campsites on a yearly basis to keep from "wearing out" a campsite area totally * and let it rest for a few years before returning to it to allow the game,fish and land a chance to refresh itself.
 

Do you have the recipe? Needing a cleanse
 

Dry roasted then steeped I do belive. Its all you..
 

I always enjoy the pottery. It has a story to tell. Seems like you would find points from the site there as well. I find pottery I usually am in flint as well. Nice pieces.
 

She was telling me that the chert was traded from up in the mountains and TN since we didn't have any in this area. I know others have found some but I haven't yet. I would love to find some and keep looking.
 

She was telling me that the chert was traded from up in the mountains and TN since we didn't have any in this area. I know others have found some but I haven't yet. I would love to find some and keep looking.

In my area, flint and chert is not abundant. However, rhyolite is plentiful. I'm also in what they call the slate belt. Are you believing the lack of flint is the underlying cause for not finding arrowheads?
 

Pottery is light and has alot of surface area. It tends to wind up on the surface before stone and in bigger numbers where there is alot.
I suggest moving upstream from the bulk of the pottery and also checking places that erode and collect debris. Like behind large stones in the path of the creek/stream and gravel bars near bends.
 

These are pottery pieces that we pulled out of our local creek that span many centuries. These are both Cherokee and Catawba Indian shards. The chert cutting tool was traded into the area because we have no chert in our area. These are on top of the sand after every rain. The chert tool is a special one. I've never found another.
<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=765549"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=765550"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=765551"/><img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=765552"/>

The black shard is Cherokee from a paddle stamping process where they carve the pattern onto a piece of wood and stamp it onto the clay. This is the earliest piece the best we can figure.

Here's a peice i found some years back near uharrie nat.forest

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Idk. I know others have found plenty. It might be I haven't developed the eye yet. When I found my first shard I can spot em like they are highlighted now.
 

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