This is just something else to enrage all of us who work....

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They're behind bars, but you're still paying their "salaries."
State and federal officials say inmates across the country continue to collect millions each year in fraudulent unemployment benefits -- often the result of oversight -- with the most recent case in Pennsylvania, where more than 1,000 people collected benefits while behind bars.
Pennsylvania officials said this week the fraud occurred in county prisons because they failed to implement a system of cross-checking the Social Security numbers of benefit applicants, like they did with inmates in their state and federal prisons.
Republican Gov. Tom Corbett said his administration is correcting the problem. But the 1,162 inmates had already collected about $334 every week for more than four months, costing taxpayers roughly $7 million.
The state labor department said detecting the fraud is more difficult now that benefit checks -- once intercepted in inmates’ mail -- have largely been replaced with direct deposits to bank accounts. And the biweekly phone calls to renew benefits can be made by a friend or relative at home.
Overall unemployment fraud is now at 2.85 percent, according to the Labor Department. The agency doesn’t have a specific number for fraud payments but said overall improper payments cost taxpayers $4.9 billion from July 2011 through June 2012, the agency’s most recent reporting period.
The problem is hardly isolated to Pennsylvania. The states with the highest fraud rate over that period were Arizona at 9.21 percent; Mississippi at 9.05 percent; Louisiana at 8.29 percent; South Dakota at 5.95 percent; and Pennsylvania and New Mexico tied at 5.22 percent. The total amount of improper payments was roughly $890 million.
A recent audit in South Carolina purportedly shows the state is also paying unemployment benefits to inmates as well as children, dead people and residents of other states.
State Sen. Kevin Bryant said the percentage of claims could be as high as 25 percent. However, Bryant, a Republican, said Wednesday the sample audit was performed by a private firm and the findings cannot be released unless the state’s Department of Employment and Workforce hires it for a full audit.
In Arizona, officials purportedly found 475 inmates collected roughly $1.1 million in 2010 and 2012. To detect the fraud, the state’s Department of Economic Security used the same Social Security cross-referencing that Pennsylvania was using in state and federal prisons since 1997.
Arizona officials, like others across the U.S., are trying to recoup the money through such methods as offsetting future benefits and taking tax refunds.
A U.S. Labor Department spokesman told FoxNews.com the U.S. fraud rate continued to drop as the agency looks for new ways to detect scams, “but the goal is to insure taxpayers are not being impacted by improper payments and fraud.”
He also said New York is working on a pilot project that officials hope will find new ways for states to improve oversight efforts.


Read more: Inmates collecting millions from fraudulent unemployment checks | Fox News
 

Let them work it $1.00 a day extra time in jail. They can cut grass on the highways.
 

They're behind bars, but you're still paying their "salaries."

Oh my! Regular prisoners too?

When I read the first line I thought you were talking about our congressmen and senators.
 

Never understood why the government is so far behind with their antiquated computer systems. Most companies today would have caught something like this.

I also invite you down to your local Social Security office to see how many young "disabled" people are in there signing up for benefits. I'm not surprised but a little shocked at the qty.
 

In Virginia, only Min. Security Inmates can clean up trash (highways, etc); NO cutting grass. If cops go to prison, they die by shanking (prison-made knife) within a week; once word gets "on the yard"... WOE!
 

Never understood why the government is so far behind with their antiquated computer systems. Most companies today would have caught something like this.

I also invite you down to your local Social Security office to see how many young "disabled" people are in there signing up for benefits. I'm not surprised but a little shocked at the qty.

Getting SSDI is NOT easy...
 

Never understood why the government is so far behind with their antiquated computer systems. Most companies today would have caught something like this.

I also invite you down to your local Social Security office to see how many young "disabled" people are in there signing up for benefits. I'm not surprised but a little shocked at the qty.

You are right on this one. I'm only 32 and I meet people every day who tell me that they collect disability checks.
 

Treasure_Hunter said:
Let them work it $1.00 a day extra time in jail. They can cut grass on the highways.

Agreed with the kind of prison population we are supporting there shouldn't be a single piece of trash anywhere. Nothing cruel or unusual about getting people out to work. Get them on farms growing their own food, etc.
 

Getting SSDI is NOT easy...

I agree with ya specially for the people that need it but the people I saw trying to sign up were the same people that have 7 kids and are already collecting some sort of assistance i.e. housing, welfare, etc. But one of their babies fathers was shot and is now disabled and he was the bread winner for her family.

BTW what is fibromyalgia anyway? A syndrome that that has no known cause. I think back in my grandparents day it was called getting old. I know another person fighting for "benefits" because he has this. In my book its wrong and that's whats wrong with the country, too many free loaders.
 

I agree with ya specially for the people that need it but the people I saw trying to sign up were the same people that have 7 kids and are already collecting some sort of assistance i.e. housing, welfare, etc. But one of their babies fathers was shot and is now disabled and he was the bread winner for her family.

BTW what is fibromyalgia anyway? A syndrome that that has no known cause. I think back in my grandparents day it was called getting old. I know another person fighting for "benefits" because he has this. In my book its wrong and that's whats wrong with the country, too many free loaders.

Fibro is a VERY serious NERVE disorder; "Google" it!
 

Agreed with the kind of prison population we are supporting there shouldn't be a single piece of trash anywhere. Nothing cruel or unusual about getting people out to work. Get them on farms growing their own food, etc.

ONLY Min. Security inmates (aka "Trusties"). They LOVE getting outside...
 

MAY well be; MUST be qualified, somehow. COULD be head-injured ppl, a "invisible" disability; LOTS of VETS have it from IED in combat! (Response to "post" # 9). As young as 20! I know of one female vet with half her brain gone; has PLASTIC skull piece to LOOK normal... BUT!
Report ALL ppl to Welfare Office of YOUR locality, if... you think they are CHEATING "The System"...
 

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MAY well be; MUST be qualified, somehow. COULD be head-injured ppl, a "invisible" disability; LOTS of VETS have it from IED in combat! (Response to "post" # 9). As young as 20! I know of one female vet with half her brain gone; has PLASTIC skull piece to LOOK normal... BUT!
Report ALL ppl to Welfare Office of YOUR locality, if... you think they are CHEATING "The System"...

Rebel, we have been through this before.....welfare office does not want to hear about cheaters. In fact they threaten to prosecute you if you persist on reporting.....
 

I agree with ya specially for the people that need it but the people I saw trying to sign up were the same people that have 7 kids and are already collecting some sort of assistance i.e. housing, welfare, etc. But one of their babies fathers was shot and is now disabled and he was the bread winner for her family.

BTW what is fibromyalgia anyway? A syndrome that that has no known cause. I think back in my grandparents day it was called getting old. I know another person fighting for "benefits" because hye has this. In my book its wrong and that's whats wrong with the cointry, too many free loaders.

Fibromyalgia is as I understand it and Crispin is free to jump in and clarify, a disease in which there is no restrict prove and or disprove. Unexplained pain. It is true that this "disease " is used by many who sign up for disability. I personally know of several of these fake cases going on right now.
 

Fibromyalgia is as I understand it and Crispin is free to jump in and clarify, a disease in which there is no restrict prove and or disprove. Unexplained pain. It is true that this "disease " is used by many who sign up for disability. I personally know of several of these fake cases going on right now.

REPORT 'em, then...
 

For all of you wondering just how much they actually make, here's WA State:
In House Porters-.35-.42 a hr. Can't make more than $55 a month.
Out Side Porters(Highway trash, city park clean up) .60-.75 a hr. $125 a month max.
Let them work it $1.00 a day extra time in jail. They can cut grass on the highways.
 

This is only the tip of the iceberg on abuse of our social programs. If we could/would do away with it, this country would be fine. Just one of the many cases I'm aware of involved a guy and his girlfriend. She had been in a car accident and got on SSDI. It was legitimate I guess but she was capable of working but elected not to because the SS was "free". She would play it up for the doctors and I guess they finally put her on it permanently. The real abuse involved her boyfriend. He also got a check every month for "taking care" of her. They didn't marry because he would lose his check. Then he got busted for selling drugs and went to prison for about a year and a half. You guessed it; he continued getting his check although he wasn't taking care of her. The abuse is rampant and acceptable across this country, the more you can suck out of her the better.
 

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