Think I found some bullets

[creeper71]

sorry for the pics, was told there blurry..I am not good at taking pics at all... I found all these in a hill top in a hay feild... can anyone tell me what they are an how old thanks

 

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[Montana Jim]

Re: Think I found some cw bullets

creeper... I'm thinking maybe not.

Can you get clearer pics?

 

[creeper71]

I will try to Jim, I'm not very good at all with pics

 

[Montana Jim]

I agree... you DID find bullets... just that I don't think CW like you originally thought.

I can't swear by the pics...

I know some bullet dudes can prolly tell you exactly what you have if you can get clearer shots of them.

 

[dcinffxva]

It really is impossible to tell by those pics, but it appears that at least 4 or 5 of them are jacketed, so that rules out any Civil War connection. Does your camera have a macro setting ? It's usually marked by a little flower on most digitals. That would help a lot. Also, on the ones you can, measure the base in 100/th's of an inch, and that will tell you the caliber, for example, 1/4 inch=.25 inch=.25 caliber.

The vast majority of Civil War rifle bullets were larger than .50 caliber, with most being .58, then .69, .54 and a variety tossed in, The majority of pistol bullets were .44, .36 and some .31.

Clear pics, with a fixed reference, like a ruler, dime etc. will help a lot.

 

[creeper71]

like I said I can't take pics, those pics are done with the macro on... the fired ones all have some type of lead stuck inside them... the thing on the top right looks to be a dropped jacket.. very heavy for it's size ....

 

[Rptyd]

Definitely bullets but it looks like one might be a hollow point which does rule out civil war because they were originally available in the late 1800's. The expansion on the flowered one definitely brings to mind (jacket). Still looks old though.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

like I said I can't take pics, those pics are done with the macro on...

Its possible that you are pushing the shutter button too quickly. Pause halfway, to let the macro lens focus, and then push it down completely when taking close-ups. I hope this helps.

 

[creeper71]

like I said I can't take pics, those pics are done with the macro on...

Its possible that you are pushing the shutter button too quickly. Pause halfway, to let the macro lens focus, and then push it down completely when taking close-ups. I hope this helps.

Thank you for actual help an not just saying my pics are crap with no advice to help me... That probly is the problem... I know it's me an not the camera that feakin camera was close to 300.00.. I didn't know you had to push halfway then wait..thanks again for your actual help an advice

 

[dcinffxva]

like I said I can't take pics, those pics are done with the macro on... the fired ones all have some type of lead stuck inside them... the thing on the top right looks to be a dropped jacket.. very heavy for it's size ....

Look for grooves in the bullet running from top to bottom like this one. This would indicate that the bullet was fired. It would be very unlikely that you would find a dropped bullet, that became seperated from the shell casing.

 

[creeper71]

the far right on top is a casing/jacket in shape of a bullet with a small opning on top... one beside it is a large lead ... others are casings

 

[dcinffxva]

Creeper,

I think you are confusing your terminology a little bit. A jacket, and a case are different components. What you found appear to be bullets that have been fired. Many modern bullets (and I mean "modern" to be WWI and after) are either lead alloy, lead alloy with a partial metal jacket, or lead alloy with a full metal jacket. The jacket is usually copper, but sometimes other metal is also used. The shell case is usually brass, nickel plated brass, or in some instances of recent bullets, steel or aluminum.

When they are fired, sometimes the jacket will remain with the bullet, sometimes the jacket will be shed, leaving two seperate pieces behind. The copper jacket, and the lead alloy core.

Here are the main components of a modern bullet

#1 is the bullet itself.
#2 is the shell casing
#3 is the propellant, usually smokeless powder
#4 is the rim. This helps identifies what type of firearm it was used in, in this case, a semi-auto pistol.
#5 is the primer.

Of course over the years, there have been several variations from this, and self contained cartridges have been around for roughly 160 years, but they were not all that common until the US Civil War. For the earliest years, most bullets were a simple, round, lead ball. These are still in use today. Pennsylvania still requires muzzle loading hunters to use flintlock rifles/muskets, so you could easily find a round ball that was fired earlier that day.

The bullets that you have look to be of the type that could have been fired anytime in the past 100 years. If they are jacketed, which some appear to be, then it is more likely that they are from the 1910 or later time frame.

Measuring the base diameter would help a lot, but still wouldn't guarantee a positive ID without either better pics, or a hands on look.

Hope this helps.

DC

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

like I said I can't take pics, those pics are done with the macro on...

Its possible that you are pushing the shutter button too quickly. Pause halfway, to let the macro lens focus, and then push it down completely when taking close-ups. I hope this helps.

Thank you for actual help an not just saying my pics are crap with no advice to help me... That probly is the problem... I know it's me an not the camera that feakin camera was close to 300.00.. I didn't know you had to push halfway then wait..thanks again for your actual help an advice

That is how my two cameras work. (Sony Mavica and Panasonic DMC-TZ3). I dont know about yours.
Another possibility is that you are too close. Try backing up an inch or two. Pause halfway when you push and hold it steady, then click.

 

[creeper71]

thank you for your advice... I'll try that

 

[creeper71]

Creeper,

I think you are confusing your terminology a little bit. A jacket, and a case are different components. What you found appear to be bullets that have been fired. Many modern bullets (and I mean "modern" to be WWI and after) are either lead alloy, lead alloy with a partial metal jacket, or lead alloy with a full metal jacket. The jacket is usually copper, but sometimes other metal is also used. The shell case is usually brass, nickel plated brass, or in some instances of recent bullets, steel or aluminum.

When they are fired, sometimes the jacket will remain with the bullet, sometimes the jacket will be shed, leaving two seperate pieces behind. The copper jacket, and the lead alloy core.

Here are the main components of a modern bullet

#1 is the bullet itself.
#2 is the shell casing
#3 is the propellant, usually smokeless powder
#4 is the rim. This helps identifies what type of firearm it was used in, in this case, a semi-auto pistol.
#5 is the primer.

Of course over the years, there have been several variations from this, and self contained cartridges have been around for roughly 160 years, but they were not all that common until the US Civil War. For the earliest years, most bullets were a simple, round, lead ball. These are still in use today. Pennsylvania still requires muzzle loading hunters to use flintlock rifles/muskets, so you could easily find a round ball that was fired earlier that day.

The bullets that you have look to be of the type that could have been fired anytime in the past 100 years. If they are jacketed, which some appear to be, then it is more likely that they are from the 1910 or later time frame.

Measuring the base diameter would help a lot, but still wouldn't guarantee a positive ID without either better pics, or a hands on look.

Hope this helps.

DC

yes it helps, thank you... I don't know anything about bullets....

 

[SomeGuy]

You will get sharper pics if you get more light on the subject. Exif data shows your shutter speed was 1/4 second, too slow for a hand held shot. Either use a tripod and the camera's self timer, or add enough light so the camera selects a shutter speed of 1/60 second or faster.

 

[creeper71]

thank you for your very helpful advice!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

You will get sharper pics if you get more light on the subject. Exif data shows your shutter speed was 1/4 second, too slow for a hand held shot. Either use a tripod and the camera's self timer, or add enough light so the camera selects a shutter speed of 1/60 second or faster.

I find that taking pictures outside in the daytime gives the best light. If I have to take a picture indoors, I use a halogen light and turn the camera flash off. A blu background works the best for me under good lighting.

 

[creeper71]

thank you also for your helpful advice

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

thank you also for your helpful advice

I needed to learn all of this when I started selling on e-Bay. I didnt even know how to use a computer when I first started a couple years ago.

I get some good clear pics with a cheap halogen light. But outside in sunlight is best. Be sure not to cast a shadow on the subject.

I dont use a tripod but i try to hold the camera as steady as possible by using my elbos on the table. Macro lens setting, autofocus, not too close (about 4-6 inches), flash off, blu background, pause on the button to focus and I get great pics.

You may also need to set your camera for indoors or outdoors. White balance may also need to be set. I use the autofocus setting.