The museum says Roman ?

[robfinds]

Hello,

I went round Doncaster museum yesterday, they have a very good Roman section (Doncaster was a Roman town "Danum"). In one case they had one of these objects, exactly like the one on the right. It was described as being from the top of a Roman helmet. To be honest, I'm not so sure, got at least another one of these somewhere.
Robert.

 

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[CRUSADER]

OK, these are definitely Roman, I find them at most of my sites & they are all Villa/homesteads. Very little military issue on any of them. They are another item which every expert as had a best guess. (none have been found attached to anything) Thought to be a dagger pommel by some, but the guess which holds the most water with me is some kind of furniture fixing. Makes the most sense, as the wood would rot leaving the Archies with no evidence of what they mounted.

 

[shaun7]

I've got one of those

 

[robfinds]

OK, these are definitely Roman, I find them at most of my sites & they are all Villa/homesteads. Very little military issue on any of them. They are another item which every expert as had a best guess. (none have been found attached to anything) Thought to be a dagger pommel by some, but the guess which holds the most water with me is some kind of furniture fixing. Makes the most sense, as the wood would rot leaving the Archies with no evidence of what they mounted.

Could be Cru, the one on the left though as a blob of iron on it's base

 

[CRUSADER]

OK, these are definitely Roman, I find them at most of my sites & they are all Villa/homesteads. Very little military issue on any of them. They are another item which every expert as had a best guess. (none have been found attached to anything) Thought to be a dagger pommel by some, but the guess which holds the most water with me is some kind of furniture fixing. Makes the most sense, as the wood would rot leaving the Archies with no evidence of what they mounted.

Could be Cru, the one on the left though as a blob of iron on it's base

I believe the all had iron fixings on the base, to screw into the wood.

 

[robfinds]

I've got one of those

Think a lot of detectorists in England have Shaun

 

[hammered]

Hi Rob, the only Roman helmet I can find in my books that has that type of adornment is the early "Montefortino type". Although there were several other types of helmet used throughout the life of the empire. In hind sight I think Cru might be right, but here are some pics of reproduction helmets for you to compare.

hammered

 

[shaun7]

I've got one of those

Think a lot of detectorists in England have Shaun

Oh, I felt special for a moment

 

[CRUSADER]

I've got one of those

its made me think though, that wood might have a site near by

 

[robfinds]

I've got one of those

Think a lot of detectorists in England have Shaun

Oh, I felt special for a moment

Shaun you are special

 

[robfinds]

Hi Rob, the only Roman helmet I can find in my books that has that type of adornment is the early "Montefortino type". Although there were several other types of helmet used throughout the life of the empire. In hind sight I think Cru might be right, but here are some pics of reproduction helmets for you to compare.

hammered

Thanks hammered, can see why the museum came up with their id

 

[CRUSADER]

Hi Rob, the only Roman helmet I can find in my books that has that type of adornment is the early "Montefortino type". Although there were several other types of helmet used throughout the life of the empire. In hind sight I think Cru might be right, but here are some pics of reproduction helmets for you to compare.

hammered

Thanks hammered, can see why the museum came up with their id

I had 4 of these off one site & they were all slightly different. Its a farm type site, so the likely hood of 4 slightly different helmet pieces from it are Bearing in mind the Romans were masters of massive production & every helmet would look the same, otherwise they might have been picked up on inspection

 

[robfinds]

Hi Rob, the only Roman helmet I can find in my books that has that type of adornment is the early "Montefortino type". Although there were several other types of helmet used throughout the life of the empire. In hind sight I think Cru might be right, but here are some pics of reproduction helmets for you to compare.

hammered

Thanks hammered, can see why the museum came up with their id

I had 4 of these off one site & they were all slightly different. Its a farm type site, so the likely hood of 4 slightly different helmet pieces from it are Bearing in mind the Romans were masters of massive production & every helmet would look the same, otherwise they might have been picked up on inspection

yeah Cru, I agree . there would have to have been a lot of Roman helmets

 

[Dano Sverige]

What Rob has them resting on for the pic gave me an idea..although probably totally wrong lol.

Could they be the decorative corner posts they used to have on Roman scrolls?

 

[robfinds]

What Rob has them resting on for the pic gave me an idea..although probably totally wrong lol.

Could they be the decorative corner posts they used to have on Roman scrolls?

It's kitchen roll Dano