the "local" brink guys??

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jewelerdave said:
hardly ever CRH anymore since the local brinks guys started bringing the silver they got at there facility too me to process, Not much point when its culled at the repackaging place. they miss a few but all they have to do is listen for the change in tone and they search.
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That explains why my find (& most others lately) this year is so dismal.
Guess these "local" brink guys covered most part of USA (except where Maverick is, it seem...)
 

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Last week at one of my pick-up banks the head teller that orders halves for me and one other guy (and has for over a year) said that the Brinks delivery guy told her to tell us that if we are looking for silver we will not find any more because the coins are now being culled. I don't know if there is anything to this or not, but I have read on here many times that it is believed that Brinks, Loomis etc... have no right to do anything with the banks coins except count, roll and package, or whatever there agreement is with the banks.
If they are culling and selling the finds for a profit, something doesn't seem right.
 

They aren't culling. The coins don't belong to them. There job us to handle the coins and wrap, box and ship them to banks.
 

enamel7 said:
They aren't culling. The coins don't belong to them. There job us to handle the coins and wrap, box and ship them to banks.
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That is the way I understand it too, they can't take the coins, they are not theirs to take, now, if some how the facility manager is letting them swap them, then that is another story, but as far as I understand it, they aren't supossed to do that, and if caught will be out of a job. HH, Maverick.
 

hokielegend said:
:angry9::angry9: That explains why my find (& most others lately) this year is so dismal. Guess these "local" brink guys covered most part of USA (except where Maverick is, it seem...)
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Talk about a blast from the past, I see Jewelerdave is back, long time no see.
 

Here is my take on this: I grew up near a major UPS hub. Whenever I would drive by the UPS facility when the shifts were changing I would watch as all of the employees funneled through a little security building where they went through metal detectors and searches. If UPS has that kind of security for employees that are just handling packages, what kind of security do you think employees have to go through at a cash and coin logistics hub? There is no way anyone is searching and culling anything at a brinks facility. It just isn't happening.

Not to mention the employees that are rolling and boxing coin are being paid to roll and box a lot of coin. Do you really think supervisors and managers are going to let the employees get that far behind in production with the amount of time it would take to search all the coins for silver?
 

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fish on! said:
Here is my take on this: I grew up near a major UPS hub. Whenever I would drive by the UPS facility when the shifts were changing I would watch as all of the employees funneled through a little security building where they went through metal detectors and searches. If UPS has that kind of security for employees that are just handling packages, what kind of security do you think employees have to go through at a cash and coin logistics hub? There is no way anyone is searching and culling anything at a brinks facility. It just isn't happening.

Not to mention the employees that are rolling and boxing coin are being paid to roll and box a lot of coin. Do you really think supervisors and managers are going to let the employees get that far behind in production with the amount of time it would take to search all the coins for silver?
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There are no employees being paid to roll, there are giant machines that automatically roll coins and I'm certain these are further automated with automatic packaging. You paint a picture of a process that's extremely labor-intensive and I don't think this is true. I recall an ad for a position at Dunbar as a Coin Logistics/Handler that paid $9.00 an hour.

If they get some dumb stooge to sit there all day, manage coins, what the hell do they care if they swap any? Usually, what matters is the totals at the end of the day. There is not someone watching the security camera 24/7, especially in the coin area. They'd go out of business if they invested all this into monitoring some lowly coin handler... PLUS is it likely a supervisor would give a hoot if they knew someone was collecting silver? Probably not.

IF they were bills, this would be a different story. Coins not much risk if someone swaps one, if their totals off they fire them. Really people, use common sense, although culling probably is unlikely--- It's not impossible.
 

I asked the same questions and yeah. The management lets them. They dont care.

Fact is. if money is involved, no matter how big or small. Things happen, change etc. Fact is also any good manager is going to allow a bit of slack, and low and behold the company gets better taken care of. Examples. I let some of my employees cull some of the treasure. They let me know and ask and i say yes or no. Little gifts are gifts that keep on giving back. They watch our for the company.

Same is said for small mining operations in third world countries.

Guess what mine gets better local protection as opposed to getting robbed.

Mine 1. uses armed security guards and chases anyone away with a pan...high theft area. equipment problems etc.

Mine 2 takes the occasional front end loader full of pay dirt and puts it in a spot the locals can just have and dig and it keeps em busy for a week and lets them make a few dollars...guess who everyone bends over backwards to protect. Letting go of a $100 or so dollars a week in gold buys you the villages protection and a lot of good will.


those brinks guys who cull will never rob the place, and will do a damn good job to make that extra few dollars a month. The local guys from brinks just swap out and the accounting comes out right.
 

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jewelerdave said:
I asked the same questions and yeah. The management lets them. They dont care.

Fact is. if money is involved, no matter how big or small. Things happen, change etc. Fact is also any good manager is going to allow a bit of slack, and low and behold the company gets better taken care of. Examples. I let some of my employees cull some of the treasure. They let me know and ask and i say yes or no. Little gifts are gifts that keep on giving back. They watch our for the company.

Same is said for small mining operations in third world countries.

Guess what mine gets better local protection as opposed to getting robbed.

Mine 1. uses armed security guards and chases anyone away with a pan...high theft area. equipment problems etc.

Mine 2 takes the occasional front end loader full of pay dirt and puts it in a spot the locals can just have and dig and it keeps em busy for a week and lets them make a few dollars...guess who everyone bends over backwards to protect. Letting go of a $100 or so dollars a week in gold buys you the villages protection and a lot of good will.


those brinks guys who cull will never rob the place, and will do a damn good job to make that extra few dollars a month. The local guys from brinks just swap out and the accounting comes out right.
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Any chance these "local brinks guys" are just a couple of CRH'ers pulling your leg? I guess it's plausible that a manager is letting them screw around on the job and hunt for silver. If he/she gets caught though I'm sure the lot of them will be looking for new jobs.
 

I must remind everyone of my post several months ago, that Cummings Coin Counting equipment has come out with a large coin processor/sorter/counter that can extra silver. I would not be an extra step in the handling process, but just another reject bin in the machine. After all, we are not talking thousands of coins per day, probably a few dozen per 8-hour shift.
 

Do 80-120 boxes a week for a few weeks. See howling silver you find. If its still none, MAYBE I will consider these ridiculous ideas.
 

This just sounds like somebody making up a story to scare people so they stop CRH.
 

agme said:
Last week at one of my pick-up banks the head teller that orders halves for me and one other guy (and has for over a year) said that the Brinks delivery guy told her to tell us that if we are looking for silver we will not find any more because the coins are now being culled. I don't know if there is anything to this or not, but I have read on here many times that it is believed that Brinks, Loomis etc... have no right to do anything with the banks coins except count, roll and package, or whatever there agreement is with the banks.
If they are culling and selling the finds for a profit, something doesn't seem right.
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Just a thought, but could it just be that the tellers made it up? Either to pull your leg, or to get you to stop ordering coins because they don't want order them anymore.
 

I overheard a Brinks driver talking with some tellers a couple years back. He was specifically saying they should be pulling that out of the bags before they sealed them and that it was worth a lot of money. They were in the back area where they couldn't be seen but he was saying "that is silver and worth a lot of money". The tellers didn't seem too interested and I have had a couple scores from the bank after this happened but locally you can have one driver mess up an area...

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