Swift Upper Mines Found

[Swifty]

Hey Ki, and All
Swift's "upper mines" found using the carving/survey or compass rock on LDC and a few other carvings. I found the spot that many of the carvings pertain to. GCS nearby the mines, other carvings in the area pertain to it as well. If and when anybody does find it, you better keep it a secret or the landowners or law enforcement/feds will get it all. The secret is safe with me, "like it has been for close to 240yrs." The thrill of the hunt. When I have some solid evidence, I will show it to ya'll.

Sincerely,
L37something -aka- Swifty... 8)

 

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[snake35]

You are not the first to have claimed to found the Swift mines. From your post you are implying it is on state or federal land. that has also previously been claimed.

I also hunted the northern Swift mines on and off for years. I do not believe that they exist. John Swift was a pirate who melted his swag silver and counterfeited English Crowns. To much prospecting in that area has been done, primarily for coal. Any silver deposits would have been found.

 

[Mr.Jody]

So you are filthy rich then?

 

[swiftfan]

Hey L37 something, I have a question...

Is it possible to study the sands and sediment of a stream to see what may lie in an area? such as LDC for example? Maybe use a metal detector or a screen box?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Tally HO L37, my friend go, go, go. Later show the pctures and tell the story.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[BuckleBoy]

If I had a dollar for every time I heard something like this...



Where's SWR when ya need him?

 

[Jeffro]

Good deal and go go go as Don Jose de la Mancha said- only you may want to leave Indian princesses out of any stories-

 

[swiftfan]

One thing bothers me. Will the next finder keep it secret? Imagine if everything is as it was left on the last trip Swift made.. Me, personally, wouldn't be able to sleep till I knew it would be safe from the Feds. I know what would happen to it, and we, as treasure hunters would forever lose a very real piece of history. congradulations on your find, and I would love to get there to see it before it's too late.

Swiftfan

 

[boomer]

Hmm, First the symbol 102 is wrong, the correct one is 101, it was a masonic symbol. The 101 stood for the entrance to king Solomon's temple. the 1's stood for the 2 columns on each side of the entrance. the circle stood for the inner temple and the treasure room was on the right hand side. who came up with the idea that this was swift's, i guess will never know for sure. some of the men that were with swift were masons out of north carolina, maybe that's where it may have come from. on swifts map, the anchor stood for: to hold fast or dig into the earth, the boxed in area that looks like a ladder: jacobs ladder, each rung stood for a certain mineral. the first 4 rungs are crossed out, the last 3 rungs stand for iron, silver, gold. the bell maybe the setting maul used like a hammer to drive wedges into wood or used with a hand held drill bit to tunnel into rock. i have photo's of the location of the 101 around here some where. at the carving of the 101, about 200 yards past and up the hill, there are 2 limestone columns, layers of rock. they stand about 15 and 25 feet high. 50 feet past and you are at a high cliff. there is a large flat rock laying next to the cliff cut some what like a circle. if you walk in the other direction from the 101, about 300 yards you will find a small carving of a turkey track pointing to a line of limestone 6 feet high. part of the limestone has been cut away and back filled with creek rock. its just the right size for a tomb. could it be the indian grave. maybe? but this one i'll wait on. if this is the grave, it belongs to the Shawnee nation. as for the north mines, come north about 80 miles.

 

[pegleglooker]

bump

 

[boomer]

Hmmm, sound like you have been reading the paper back ( a story of lost treasure with video ) by ralph volker. but the upper mines are very close to 38-2. the upper mines are were at 3 different times shawnee came to find this grave. search for 3 mines, one in sandstone, the other is 300 yards from the first and on the edge of a deep stream, part is flooded by the stream, the last is 2 miles away near the top of a ridge, the cave has soap stone with a seam running in it. by the way, your vary close, but you need to come north a little - like about 80 miles. if anyone is interested in seeing the mines. i'll be glad to show them.

 

[boomer]

First: who was talking about lower devil's anyway? that is not the location. but the map is a guide to the middle mines. remove all the writing on the devil's map and start over. Second: there are 3 sets of mines, upper, middle and lower. you probably take all your info out of a book. if you want to know the real story you need to get away from the stories about miners in KY, WV, TNN, and VA. maps and hearsay. the maps and part of the journal have been changed over the years to throw others off. oh by the way, there are 3 maps and 2 are interconnected. next: spend 2 years researching and locating the descendant's of the miners and speak with the elders of the Shawnee and Cherokee nations and find out who the keepers of the history are. i'll help you with this. Paintsville and Louisa, KY. blackburns and sperlocks. Frenchburg, KY. Mundy and Sprate. Ashville NC. Fletcher and blackburns
also the Wilson family, it was shown as Wilton in the book. Swift Creek, NC. Kings and Swift. Go to the Filson club in Louisville, KY. and study the hundreds of papers pertaining to mining in KY. also the archives at the main library in Raleigh NC. Read the book the Frontiersman, you will find several of the men that were with swift in this book, Border Settlers of southwest VA. and the Big Sandy Valley. Come back in 2 years and you should be ready to search. i never cared one way or the other about the mines, its finding the stuff that has already been melted out.

 

[-Ki-]

congrads L37,
happy hunting -Ki-

 

[Mr.Jody]

If those who have the 'secrets' why even tell those that are looking if you aint sharing?

 

[truckinbutch]

If those who have the 'secrets' why even tell those that are looking if you aint sharing?

Makes perfect sense to me . If you aren't sharing it's just a naysayer's kid game of 'I've got a secret and I won't tell'.

 

[swiftsearcher]

From my research, I cannot find any Swift Journal that mentions the 101 carving. I did tell Ki in an e-mail that the 101 is important to the Indians and there is an Indian Princess buried nearby and treasure. However, this in no way relates to Swift.

As for the Swift map you mention (that was pictured in one of Henson's book), I have an old copy that has a little more detail. I won't go into all of my decipherments here. However, I will tell you that the map (both mine and Henson's) is correct and very precise!

As for the object on the map someone referred to as "Jacob's Ladder". The two VERTICAL lines represent the ore - one for Gold and one for Silver. I will not go into detail about the other lines or drawings here, but they all fit into the area of Swift's Principal Mines. In my upcoming book, I will include a copy of my map (that has more detail than Henson's, but was probably copied from the same source, as they are very similar) and go into detail about the map and even give a map of the area Swift's Principal Mines are located, showing where everything on the Swift Map is located (as they are all still there).

 

[Jeffro]

Just curious mi amigo- are you aware there ain't no such thing as an "Indian Princess"? White man's storytelling created the terminology, but I assure you if you looked into Native American history, there never was such a critter. In other words, fantasy. And if you're basing your research off such stories, well..... it may be time to take a closer look at some of your sources. Just a suggestion.

 

[swiftsearcher]

Based the "Indian Princess" on what Henson wrote!

 

[swiftsearcher]

I thought I would check and see. There definitely seems that there WERE Indian Princesses - just look at this link about Pocahontas. Also, the story Henson wrote states that this is what the Indian in the area told some nosy white people, so, they could have been using the term "Princess" so the whites could relate. I have never done any specific reasearch on the existence of Indian Princesses. However, though research, I have come across the term - mostly used by Henson.

Here is the link to Pocahontas, Indian Princess.


http://www.preservationvirginia.org/rediscovery/page.php?page_id=26

 

[-Ki-]

First: who was talking about lower devil's anyway? that is not the location. but the map is a guide to the middle mines. remove all the writing on the devil's map and start over. Second: there are 3 sets of mines, upper, middle and lower. you probably take all your info out of a book. if you want to know the real story you need to get away from the stories about miners in KY, WV, TNN, and VA. maps and hearsay. the maps and part of the journal have been changed over the years to throw others off. oh by the way, there are 3 maps and 2 are interconnected. next: spend 2 years researching and locating the descendant's of the miners and speak with the elders of the Shawnee and Cherokee nations and find out who the keepers of the history are. i'll help you with this. Paintsville and Louisa, KY. blackburns and sperlocks. Frenchburg, KY. Mundy and Sprate. Ashville NC. Fletcher and blackburns
also the Wilson family, it was shown as Wilton in the book. Swift Creek, NC. Kings and Swift. Go to the Filson club in Louisville, KY. and study the hundreds of papers pertaining to mining in KY. also the archives at the main library in Raleigh NC. Read the book the Frontiersman, you will find several of the men that were with swift in this book, Border Settlers of southwest VA. and the Big Sandy Valley. Come back in 2 years and you should be ready to search. i never cared one way or the other about the mines, its finding the stuff that has already been melted out.

Boomer, do you have any info on the wilson family, yes it was spelled wilton in the books.... was there any wilsons that looked for silver mines? Close to my mine i found very old name carvings, which are Mcliton, stoner, wilson..... I have read that the wilson (wilton) familys were one of the first familys to explore and settled pioneer Ky.