Survey for Hg Cargo on Torpedoed U-864 German Sub

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I found this by accident, but thought it might interest some folks on here. The report is dated 7/4/08. A link is at the bottom to the 40 page PDF file.

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The German submarine U-864 was torpedoed by the British submarine Venturer on February 9 1945
and sunk approximately two nautical miles west of the island Fedje in Hordaland. U-864 was carrying
about 67 metric tonnes of metallic mercury that implies a threat to the marine environment. In
September 2007 The Norwegian Costal Administration commissioned Det Norske Veritas to further
investigate different alternatives to salvage the wreck and remove the mercury from the seabed.
The objective of this supplementary study is to propose a survey method, or combination of methods,
that will give the best probability of detecting sub-bottom mercury canisters around the wreck of U-
864.

DNV’s overall conclusion is: A combination of single caesium vapour magnetometer and pipe
tracker, positioned by acoustic LBL technique, is the preferred method to locate sub-bottom canisters.
The searching will take at least six days and all surface debris must be cleared from the site prior to
operation.

http://www.kystverket.no/arch/_img/9818165.pdf
 

I'm familiar with this wreck. It will be a very dangerous endeavor. I think the current plan is to raise the wreck from the seabed and carry out the salvage and cleanup from there.

Unfortunately, it is carrying about 1,857 steel canisters of Mercury, all of which are most likely leaking.

It is also most likely carrying an unknown quantity of Uranium Oxide, due to the radioactive results found in core samples taken from around the wreck.

But what would be interesting to see are the parts and possibly plans (if they somehow survived) for the Messerschmitt 262 Jet fighter the vessel was supposed to be carrying as well. Original plans for the world's first jet fighter would be something to see.
 

allen_idaho said:
If only. :)

Norway is funding the recovery. The contract for the salvage went to Mammoet Salvage, the company that recovered the Kursk back in 2001.

It just seems to me that if a ship qualifies as Soveriegn immune then the Country of orgin should be liable.............???
 

4theMoney you are spot on :thumbsup: You have to take the good with the bad. If Germany don't want anything to do with their
sub. I'm sure Norway will sell what they can.
Ossy
 

Ossy, at least we agree on that...... although, I dont think they should have a choice...You cant pick and choose... You owned it....you agree to sovereign immunity...you should be forever responsible unless you sign an agreement with a second party to substitute ownership.
 

MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
4theMoney, good point, see we agree again.
Cheers, Ossy

I wonder where that leaves lost and scuttled nuclear subs? I know we(USA) has some and didnt Russia Scuttle some? Any others you can think of? Im trying to remember the name of one of ours....named after a shark or somthing...
 

4theMoney, Question for you, What if the German sub had Gold bars on it, why I ask I know were one is,
New Guinea, my brother in law has been salvaging aircraft parts from Papua New Guinea, the US dumped a lot of planes and equipment
into the bush after the war.
Theres an old sea dog that has done some work for him, and he has the location for the sub, very deep ! I'm sure the German government
might be interested.
Ossy
 

MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
4theMoney, Question for you, What if the German sub had Gold bars on it, why I ask I know were one is,
New Guinea, my brother in law has been salvaging aircraft parts from Papua New Guinea, the US dumped a lot of planes and equipment
into the bush after the war.
Theres an old sea dog that has done some work for him, and he has the location for the sub, very deep ! I'm sure the German government
might be interested.
Ossy

There are a lot of rumors about German treasure. Maybe true, maybe not.... Either way since it belongs to Germany, I would try to strike a reasonable deal, otherwise.....let them go find it. The thing is Ossy, I dont have a problem with respect or heritage. I just feel that when money becomes involved even governments are as corrupt as anyone and more wasteful.
There are three German subs within 40mi of where I live. I refuse to dive any of them. I wouldnt want to be accused of anything. I believe I have a location for a fourth in very deep water. I refuse to investigate. Because of all the soveign immune contraversy i dont want anything to do with any of it. Since our Governments are doing such a good job managing the world they probably deserve to manage it all. I cant wait to go to a museum anywhere in the world and admire a twenty foot high stack of gold bars.
 

They want to salvage the sub because its loaded with mercury. If it stays down there much longer, the rich fishing industry could be in danger of polluted waters in the future.

So they say on the official newschannels...
 

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