SUN CELLAR HOLE HUNT WITH FRANK* button help needed!!!!!!!

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Frank has been hot on the large coppers lately and today was no exception.we spent about 4 hours at the cellar hole.I squeaked out a few keepers but,today was Franks day!
I got a large dandy or cloak button with some gold gilting still left on it,a 1875 indian head ( a decent date),a large iron farm implement(never dug anything like this before)
franks large cent was unidentifiable but he also dug this 2 piece button wiyh a scovill backmark.can anyone shed some light on this button with house and RtS ? festina lente? anybody with a alberts or tice book tell me about this please?

 

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[umrgolf]

It appears to be a church or school.. found this on the internet- this was in response to someone else who found a different button with the same phrase on the front.

The phrase "deliberate speed" appears to be a derivative of "speed thee slowly" found in Sir Thomas Elyot's 1545 introduction of the word "maturity" into the English language. "Speed thee slowly" was taken from a Greek proverb and translated from the Latin festina lente. One famous American use of the expression festina lente, particularly relevant to our subject matter, is by President Abraham Lincoln. When Lincoln was asked whether he favored the immediate emancipation of the slaves, he responded, "It will do no good to go ahead any faster than the country will follow. . . . You know the old Latin motto festina lente." Lincoln in this case was referring to Augustus Caesar's interpretation: "make haste slowly."


was in response to this question:

I hunted at an 1860's college this morning. The same place that gave me my first large cent. I found these two buttons. The silver colored one has "W.B. co" on the shank. I believe that is Waterbury button co.? Would this be a uniform button? Looks like a newer button. The second is a little more puzzling. In a ribbon it "TESTINA / LENTE" with what looks like a sword with a star at the top and the letters E.C. on each side. The back has "Scoville mfg. co." with 3 stars.Any help would be appreciated! Going back for a while this afternoon.

 

[55th Massachusetts]

Looks VERY interesting. Post a pic of the back!
REB

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

It appears to be a church or school.. found this on the internet- this was in response to someone else who found a different button with the same phrase on the front.

The phrase "deliberate speed" appears to be a derivative of "speed thee slowly" found in Sir Thomas Elyot's 1545 introduction of the word "maturity" into the English language. "Speed thee slowly" was taken from a Greek proverb and translated from the Latin festina lente. One famous American use of the expression festina lente, particularly relevant to our subject matter, is by President Abraham Lincoln. When Lincoln was asked whether he favored the immediate emancipation of the slaves, he responded, "It will do no good to go ahead any faster than the country will follow. . . . You know the old Latin motto festina lente." Lincoln in this case was referring to Augustus Caesar's interpretation: "make haste slowly."


was in response to this question:

I hunted at an 1860's college this morning. The same place that gave me my first large cent. I found these two buttons. The silver colored one has "W.B. co" on the shank. I believe that is Waterbury button co.? Would this be a uniform button? Looks like a newer button. The second is a little more puzzling. In a ribbon it "TESTINA / LENTE" with what looks like a sword with a star at the top and the letters E.C. on each side. The back has "Scoville mfg. co." with 3 stars.Any help would be appreciated! Going back for a while this afternoon.

at first when i was holding it i thought of your cadet buttons you guys dug!
hopefully this is in a button book and someone will chime in.thanks for lookin dude!

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Looks VERY interesting. Post a pic of the back!
REB

back is deteriorating he said it's a scovills & co superfine backmark

 

[umrgolf]

Looks VERY interesting. Post a pic of the back!
REB

i'll have to ask him to send me a pic of the back.he said it's a scovills backmark

yes, looks a lot like ours 1840's-50's, same backmark too.. looks more like a schoolhouse and probably a high school like the one referenced in my last reply (the person who responded thought it was Episcopal High School)

 

[VERMONTPACKRAT]

What a cool button ! I sure hope someone can figure it out


VPR

 

[Steve in PA]

Nice finds! That school button is super cool!

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Great finds again you guys!

 

[BobinSouthVA]

Thats a very interesting button. Nice gilt on it. Hope someone can ID it for you.

 

[Curious The George]

The iron thing is called a froe. It is used to split wood, primarily by a person making split oak or cedar shingles. The handle goes through the eye and extends up on the thick edge of the blade.

You place the thin edge of the blade on a block of wood, holding it in place with the handle. You then strike the thick edge with a maul and drive the blade into the wood. You then use the handle to pry the shingle off the block of wood.

It is a little more complex than that but you get the basic idea.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Cool button with a Latin oxymoron on it. That button is not in any of my books, but it is bound to be some sort of a school, building or organization.

-Buckles

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

thanks for the info on the froe and looking for the button in your book

 

[HISPAN]

nice indian H .... congrats !

 

[{Sentinel}]

Congrats on some nice finds HMN. Seen quite a few buttons but that's a new one on me. Congrats!

 

[Brian(upstateNY-Central Fla.)]

Congrats on some cool finds again
Love the buttons

 

[sscindercoop]

Awesome button

 

[Bramblefind]

I found it in Alberts in the "Other Schools" section at page 340 but there is no info just says "SU 341 R S"

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

I found it in Alberts in the "Other Schools" section at page 340 but there is no info just says "SU 341 R S"

cool! thanks for looking it up!

 

[Iron Patch]

Connecticut school button, Rectory School, Scovill MFg Watrbry,

Button depicts Christian cross, "R S" the school building and a Latin inscription, Rectory School was formed in 1843 in Centerville, Connecticut, now Hamden CT. Although a church school, the curriculum also include military drill. Backmark: "SCOVILL. MFG. CO. / WATBRY." dm with no rings, well around the shank, only used for cadet buttons, ca 1860, only (ScovillM470vest). Two part convex button, "cadet" coat or vest size. Nondug button, gilded, stand up shank.

http://www.relicman.com/buttons/zArchiveButtonFedStatesConnecticut.htm