Strange white coin(?) found also last week

[woody50]

OK, but yes. While making a photo of the Potin coin, I noticed what I thought was a lead seal that looked a bit like the Potin, you know with straight side pieces, and had some letters on it, but it was a pure white color, looks like a sort of white coating on it. But it is NOT lead and the white stuff is NOT lead oxide, its some sort of patina, only pure white. It has a M on one side and a T on the other. The M reminds me very much of a number of Byzantine coins that I found in Serbia.

It is also not a lead seal, the whole object is closed and hard. I COULD have found it at the same time that I found the Potin, or in that area....

Specs:
Unkown Object
size 26mm / 22mm
color pure white (coating?)
mass 11.58gram

Ideas?

 

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[stefen]

A clay or wax seal for?

 

[Monty]

Looks like a M or W and a T for something? M nty

 

[DJ_Quinn]

Where did you find it? That will help trying to ID it.

 

[CRUSADER]

Its a Lead token. Very difficult to date but this one would be about 1800s

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numbers/15thCtokens.htm

 

[woody50]

Where did you find it? That will help trying to ID it.

I found it in the same area that I found a the Celtic potin (elsewhere on this forum). There were roman finds there also.

 

[woody50]

Its a Lead token. Very difficult to date but this one would be about 1800s

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numbers/15thCtokens.htm

Well thanks, yes it could be that, some of those look close. Just surprized about lead having such a good oxide patina, never seen that before.....

 

[DJ_Quinn]

Its a Lead token. Very difficult to date but this one would be about 1800s

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numbers/15thCtokens.htm

Well thanks, yes it could be that, some of those look close. Just surprized about lead having such a good oxide patina, never seen that before.....

Very old musket balls that I found in Ireland from the Battle of Knocknanus in 1621 also were completely white like your find. I guess lead does that after almost 4 centuries!

 

[woody50]

Its a Lead token. Very difficult to date but this one would be about 1800s

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numbers/15thCtokens.htm

Well thanks, yes it could be that, some of those look close. Just surprized about lead having such a good oxide patina, never seen that before.....

Very old musket balls that I found in Ireland from the Battle of Knocknanus in 1621 also were completely white like your find. I guess lead does that after almost 4 centuries!

OK thanks. This token's patina is very hard though, I though most lead oxide is very soft, easy to scratch away.

You know on second thought looking at the thing again, I sort of see something like someone took something and wrapped it in thin lead, and sort of sealed it. Just look at the bends and such. Could there be a gold coin inside?

 

[DJ_Quinn]

Its a Lead token. Very difficult to date but this one would be about 1800s

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numbers/15thCtokens.htm

Well thanks, yes it could be that, some of those look close. Just surprized about lead having such a good oxide patina, never seen that before.....

Very old musket balls that I found in Ireland from the Battle of Knocknanus in 1621 also were completely white like your find. I guess lead does that after almost 4 centuries!

OK thanks. This token's patina is very hard though, I though most lead oxide is very soft, easy to scratch away.

You know on second thought looking at the thing again, I sort of see something like someone took something and wrapped it in thin lead, and sort of sealed it. Just look at the bends and such. Could there be a gold coin inside?

I don't know, I've never seen lead hammered thin into a foil before.

 

[CRUSADER]

Its a Lead token. Very difficult to date but this one would be about 1800s

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/numbers/15thCtokens.htm

Well thanks, yes it could be that, some of those look close. Just surprized about lead having such a good oxide patina, never seen that before.....

Very old musket balls that I found in Ireland from the Battle of Knocknanus in 1621 also were completely white like your find. I guess lead does that after almost 4 centuries!

OK thanks. This token's patina is very hard though, I though most lead oxide is very soft, easy to scratch away.

I have many different types. It depends on the lead to alloy mix.

 

[woody50]

OK Cru, thanks a lot for your determination of the token!