Strange Indian Head

[doublet2a]

Ant help on this mis-guided Indian Head
Not magnetic
Appears to be lead
It looks as if the Indian is a coin, with the lead blobbed on to it
Dime for size
Thanks in advance for any thoughts

Tim

 

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[dirt diva]

Maybe in a fire?

 

[DD-777]

If the IH is recessed, I would think someone melted whatever that material is onto the penny to make a "negative" image of it. Pretty cool regardless...

 

[hhbooker2]

If the IH is recessed, I would think someone melted whatever that material is onto the penny to make a "negative" image of it. Pretty cool regardless...

During the Northern War of Agression (1861-1865) merchants often issued trade tokens based on the Indian Head Penny and gave them their customers as change when their was a shortage of coins during the War of Southern Rebellion, often a small emcased postage stamps served as money too! Maybe the penny was found in a burned home destroyed by Quantrail's Raiders? Never know? Sarge Booker of Tujunga, California

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well, the image is reversed...


So some sort of metal was indeed melted Onto the coin to make a "negative image" of it.  Wonder what kind of metal it is...  How does it read on your detector?


Cool find! 

 

[txkickergirl]

neat find whatever it is

 

[ClonedSIM]

If the IH is recessed, I would think someone melted whatever that material is onto the penny to make a "negative" image of it. Pretty cool regardless...

I think you're on to something, DD-777. It looks as though someone melted a bit of lead onto an Indian cent to produce a negative, possibly to later pour type of molten metal into the mold and produce a duplicate?

Awesome find, either way!

 

[BuckleBoy]

If the IH is recessed, I would think someone melted whatever that material is onto the penny to make a "negative" image of it. Pretty cool regardless...

I think you're on to something, DD-777. It looks as though someone melted a bit of lead onto an Indian cent to produce a negative, possibly to later pour type of molten metal into the mold and produce a duplicate?

Awesome find, either way!

Unless that lead has been polished it isn't as old as the coin it was poured onto. If it was, it'd be oxidized.


So my guess is that it wasn't done to create a duplicate, counterfeit, or fake...but rather out of boredom.

 

[ClonedSIM]

If the IH is recessed, I would think someone melted whatever that material is onto the penny to make a "negative" image of it. Pretty cool regardless...

I think you're on to something, DD-777. It looks as though someone melted a bit of lead onto an Indian cent to produce a negative, possibly to later pour type of molten metal into the mold and produce a duplicate?

Awesome find, either way!

Unless that lead has been polished it isn't as old as the coin it was poured onto. If it was, it'd be oxidized.


So my guess is that it wasn't done to create a duplicate, counterfeit, or fake...but rather out of boredom.

Would it depend on where the lead was found? If it wasn't exposed to the elemetns, would it still oxidize white?

doublet2a, did you dig this hunk 'o lead?

 

[doublet2a]

Yes I did dig it, and I cleaned the face, was full of crud.


Tim

 

[ClonedSIM]

Yes I did dig it, and I cleaned the face, was full of crud.


Tim

Was it all white and chalky when it came up out of the ground?

 

[fortbball9]

I think DD-777 hit this one right on the head.Very nice find looks great it is still a Indian head

fortbball9

 

[burnitup]

someone had a I.H. , and a milk dud in the same pocket and created the ever elusive milk dud penny

 

[ClonedSIM]

someone had a I.H. , and a milk dud in the same pocket and created the ever elusive milk dud penny

Heeheehee....

 

[doublet2a]

Guess I'll have to mark this one solved
Good I.D. Arron,
I imagine a 100 yr. old milk dud would be like lead now
Going this Saturday with your new E-trac??




Tim