Strange coin found in southern Oklahoma

[bdavis7640]

I found this coin today, no idea of what it is. looks like silver camera made it look yellowish. its silver dollar size and about the same thickness. any ideas what it is?

 

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[AU24K]

It appears to be a chinese token, possibly for pachinko.


Best,
Scott

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

We have some members here that can read Chinese/Japanese. I agree with AU24K that is looks like a modern pachinko gambling token. The reverse side seems to depict unusual characters and a 3 legged gambling or video machine with lucky swastikas on the side.

You could try searching the Zeno database of Oriental coins under machine struck or fantasy but Im not certain they catalog pachinko tokens. You could also send them the pics. http://www.zeno.ru/

Here are some examples of Pachinko gambling tokens.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I sent out a few PMs. Help is on the way.

 

[DCMatt]

I believe this is a Thai Buddhist Amulet - sort of the Buddhist version of a Catholic Saint medallion.

Try searching on Luang Phor Koon.

I found one picture of this medallion in Google images but the web site is locked.

Neat find!

DCMatt

 

[diggummup]

I thought it was evidence of Aliens in China. I mean it does look like a humanoid form sitting in a space capsule with swastikas on it.

 

[DCMatt]

I thought it was evidence of Aliens in China. I mean it does look like a humanoid form sitting in a space capsule with swastikas on it.

Chinese Nazi Aliens? Yikes! I don't think so...

It is a human form but the space ship is a Buddhist altar. The chu van (swastika) is the Buddhist symbol for enlightenment.

DCMatt

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I found one picture of this medallion in Google images but the web site is locked.
DCMatt

At least we know another exists. Do you remember what key words you used to find a match in images?

 

[DCMatt]

I found one picture of this medallion in Google images but the web site is locked.
DCMatt

At least we know another exists. Do you remember what key words you used to find a match in images?

It is from a web site called cointalk.

DCMatt

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I found one picture of this medallion in Google images but the web site is locked.
DCMatt

At least we know another exists. Do you remember what key words you used to find a match in images?

It is from a web site called cointalk.

DCMatt

Im not locked out. I didnt think this was going to get solved but thanks to DCMatt, we found it. http://www.cointalk.com/t17823/

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It might be silver valued about $150-$2500!!.

That piece is a silver ingot commonly referred to as 'the chinese god of longevity(shou) silver cake'. It was issued by Taiwan during Dao Guang era of Qing dynasty, mainly to meet the military supplies' needs, soldier's rations and pay during the upheaval of 1834(Dao Guang year 14). Varieties exist in weight, design, diameter and additional character marks. On the reverse is definitely manchu script, with the top character 'tai' referring to Tai mint in Taiwan.

You can weigh your coin, which should be around 26-27g.


Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/showthread.php?t=17823&pagenumber=#ixzz1Lb6reJxQ


Originally Posted by sterling
That piece is a silver ingot . . . issued by Taiwan.

It is indeed listed in Coins of the World 1750-1850, 1971 Ed. (Craig) as C#25-3, an undated 1837 issue, valued at $150. The SCWC (Krause) uses the C# in lieu of a KM#, and gives some further information, calling it an "Old Man 'Dollar"and "Soldier's Pay"; with a weight of 26.80g. They also give an issue range of 1837-1845, and in this case I would be inclined to go with their research rather than rely on Craig.

The weight is approximately the same as US silver dollars, Chinese Yuan, Japanese Yen, and other silver coins circulating in Asia during the middle and late 19th Century.

You definitely need to get your coin authrnticated, as Krause values in the 2001 3rd Ed. go as high as $2,500 in XF, with a 10% premium for the lack of any chopmarks. Reportedly they normally have at least 2 chops on the reverse, at the lower left.



Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/showthread.php?t=17823&page=1#ixzz1Lb7LEjrU

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here one with chopmarks. Nice find. Ill bet you would have sold it for $20 as a pachinko token lol. Where did you find it?

 

[DCMatt]

Are you kidding me?! That is an 1834 coin?

I've never seen or heard of anything like it.

I was thinking 1970's maybe and some sort of religious talisman.

Tell us the story of the find. This could be a banner item.

DCMatt

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It sure has a modern alien look to it. I guess the panchinko machine/spaceship is a temple? Very unusual find. I PMed the owner.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

If you read further down in the Coin Talk link from above . . .

It's bogus.

J&M Coin didn't know (or care) what it was - the guy just shrugged and said it's an old Chinese coin, and that I should find someone who could read Chinese. BTW, this was the silver coin.

Chantou International Coin & Stamp actually knew what it was at a glance, and pointed out that this coin had worn plating. One of his regular customers confirmed this and was able to read the writing.

Apparently they're commonly sold as souvenirs in Chinatown. Some are silver (the one in my photo is), and some are just plated (like the one I happened to take with me today). I had the silver one weighed (on a postal scale) and was told it was 26g. Next time I'm there I'll get the plated one weighed...

HTH. Now I'm gonna see if I can jam one into a parking meter!

Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/showthread....3129736bb13161a059d&pagenumber=#ixzz1LbTva02G

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

If you read further down in the Coin Talk link from above . . .

It's bogus.

J&M Coin didn't know (or care) what it was - the guy just shrugged and said it's an old Chinese coin, and that I should find someone who could read Chinese. BTW, this was the silver coin.

Chantou International Coin & Stamp actually knew what it was at a glance, and pointed out that this coin had worn plating. One of his regular customers confirmed this and was able to read the writing.

Apparently they're commonly sold as souvenirs in Chinatown. Some are silver (the one in my photo is), and some are just plated (like the one I happened to take with me today). I had the silver one weighed (on a postal scale) and was told it was 26g. Next time I'm there I'll get the plated one weighed...

HTH. Now I'm gonna see if I can jam one into a parking meter!

Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/showthread....3129736bb13161a059d&pagenumber=#ixzz1LbTva02G

Thanks Charlie. I dont know how I missed that. So apparently there are fakes? Sorry BDavis, it appears this needs more research. First step I would think would be to determine if its silver or plated. Im guessing that the coin I posted with chopmarks is the original.

 

[bdavis7640]

seems to be plated, I can see yellow showing on the high points of it, looks like brass with a silver plate, it does weigh 26.5 grams

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

seems to be plated, I can see yellow showing on the high points of it, looks like brass with a silver plate, it does weigh 26.5 grams

The weight sounds OK but it would appear that its a plated Chinatown souvenir.

Well at least you know what it is..

 

[bdavis7640]

Like to thank everyone for their effort in finding out what this is, would have been nice if it was real but that happens, still an interesting find to come out of a lake in southern Oklahoma

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Like to thank everyone for their effort in finding out what this is, would have been nice if it was real but that happens, still an interesting find to come out of a lake in southern Oklahoma

Yes still an interesting find and it happens. This reminds me of a Chinese coin that made banner, only to find out its a modern Chinatown souvenir. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,135989.msg1068597.html#msg1068597



The owner refuses to believe it and it still remains today in the banner as an example of how the system works. We get to the truth in the end. Thanks for sharing and being good about it.