Small ceramic bottle. Again I ask

[tamrock]

Again I ask with still no reply from anyone & hopefully some new blood out there may nail this...What origin & type of bottle do I have here?

I've had this bottle for some time now and no one can tell me what it says on it or what for sure it held at one time. It is a softer paste porcelain or ceramic of some kind with a raised pattern and various fired on enamel colors. On the bottom is a number marked D.797 and a pressed in before it was fired the number 605. It measures 3-5/16" tall and is 1-7/16" in diameter. It has much eye appeal and when folk look at, they comment on how beautiful it is, so I think it was made this way to get ones attention... I sure would like to know what the origin of this the writing on the scroll is from. I've looked on-line to compare it with Japanese and Chinese and they just don't look the same. Lately I've been thinking the writing on it isn't Asian at all, but some Europeans attempt to make it appear as Asian writing? I think it's at least a 100 years old and it held some kind of medication, cosmetics or maybe even opium??.

 

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[tokenhead]

VASE...

Hello,You might want to search American Art Pottery such as Roseville..It could be an EXPERIMENTAL peice,BUT the writting on the bottom remind's me of WesternGermany art pottery!
What is at the top of vase? Is that connected?? Maybe a closer pic or two I WILL try and help you figure this out,I hope!...HAPPY HUNTING ALL!!!
The pics are ALL Roseville pottery and have the same style as your vase,Meaning raised/cut,etc.

 

[bigfoot1]

I'm no expert but I'll guess its a snuff bottle.not asian made but chinese motif.possibly u.s.made and sold by traveling"snake oil"type salesman.I suspect it is made to resemble these...
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[BosnMate]

I don't think the writing is real oriental. Just doesn't look right to my eye, in fact it looks like a sickle cutting the head off daffy duck. Back in about 1956, Yokosuka, Japan, a Japanese girl friend of mine told me that Japanese and Chinese use the same characters for the same meaning, and although they don't speak each others language, they can read each others writing. I don't think she was pulling my leg, and it's just a recollection from long long ago and far far away. Her name was Kayko, and she was a really nice gal. She was 10 years old in Tokyo during the fire bombings. Memories -- that's about all us old coots have left.

 

[tamrock]

I'm not thinking it's a piece of American art pottery there tokenhead, but maybe it is? and I do think the style of numbers on the bottom do look European to me. It does look in shape like the snuff bottle you found BF1 and I did comb through a bunch of snuff bottle images, but never saw that one. I keep thinking it's a medicine bottle because it's about the size of an average bottle of aspirin... 1956 is when I was born BosnMate, so you give your age some. I'm sure the stories that gal from Japan could tell would be ingesting to hear from a person who lived through those times. My dad was in Japan during the occupation, just after the Japanese surrender with the U.S. 7th Cavalry. He brought some mementos back from his time there. I may never find out for sure what this bottle was for and where it came from, but it sure is unique. Maybe it's Middle Eastern

 

[cw0909]

tamrock, not saying the design marks are, but they sort of look like those tribal tattoos
tribal tattoo design img36 «Last commented images «Tattoo, tattoo design art, flash tattoo, body tattoo

 

[Sheperdess]

1956 was a great year!! Tamrock you should put it in the bottle forum dept. of Tnet.

 

[bigfoot1]

it has daiseys...bam..me thinks some yank made it.most cultures consider that a weed

 

[tokenhead]

tamrock, not saying the design marks are, but they sort of look like those tribal tattoos
tribal tattoo design img36 «Last commented images «Tattoo, tattoo design art, flash tattoo, body tattoo

Tribal Tattoo's are of a different orgin then Oriental.

 

[tokenhead]

I'm not thinking it's a piece of American art pottery there tokenhead, but maybe it is? and I do think the style of numbers on the bottom do look European to me. It does look in shape like the snuff bottle you found BF1 and I did comb through a bunch of snuff bottle images, but never saw that one. I keep thinking it's a medicine bottle because it's about the size of an average bottle of aspirin... 1956 is when I was born BosnMate, so you give your age some. I'm sure the stories that gal from Japan could tell would be ingesting to hear from a person who lived through those times. My dad was in Japan during the occupation, just after the Japanese surrender with the U.S. 7th Cavalry. He brought some mementos back from his time there. I may never find out for sure what this bottle was for and where it came from, but it sure is unique. Maybe it's Middle Eastern

I was born 1958 a better year!!! lol...If you had said your father was in Germany after the war i'd say he picked that up there given the numbers on bottom,When i 1 st.saw this i didn't realize the size! That could have held ANYTHING!!!,From Sake to Powder!!! I'm still looking! HAPPY HUNTING ALL!!!

 

[tamrock]

1956 was a great year!! Tamrock you should put it in the bottle forum dept. of Tnet.

Did that once and got no reply. It may never be solved, just not enough info out there to compare.

 

[tamrock]

it has daiseys...bam..me thinks some yank made it.most cultures consider that a weed

Could be

 

[tamrock]

I was born 1958 a better year!!! lol...If you had said your father was in Germany after the war i'd say he picked that up there given the numbers on bottom,When i 1 st.saw this i didn't realize the size! That could have held ANYTHING!!!,From Sake to Powder!!! I'm still looking! HAPPY HUNTING ALL!!!

I'm with ya on it being European. I'm sure a expert in antique ceramics would have a good idea of the type and age of paste used to produce it. I think its a low fire porcelain and you could be right on it being German, as they were the first Europeans to reproduce the fine porcelain that was coming China back then and that could be the clue to the possible origin. I think it was made to look exotic to draw attention to the content it once held, but when you look over fine porcelain from Germany you find nothing that looks in the style as this does.

 

[DCMatt]

Originally Posted by bigfoot1
it has daiseys...bam..me thinks some yank made it.most cultures consider that a weed
Could be

I looked at this for a while yesterday and didn't find anything to compare. I believe the characters are meaningless - or at least they do NOT attempt to represent the kanji for opium or perfume or anything else related that I could think of.

I'm with bigfoot. It looks to be western made. The fantasy kanji characters and the western style numbers on the bottom tell the tale. My guess is its a European or American made Asian themed snuff bottle.

DCMatt

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Closest thing I came up with for the figures is the Japanese Hiragana aplhabet (it has the "Daffy Duck being beheaded with a sickle" character . . . sort of . . . for the o/wo sound).

Hiragana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia