Small brass bugle found in Wyoming. What is it off of ?

[fortbybee]

 

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[BeachComber7]

Very nice finds!!

 

[CRUSADER]

a military hat badge (1880?)

 

[Kieth-Tx]

Here is a Civil War Confederate insignia Looks pretty big for a hat type.

 

[fortbybee]

The bugle is 4 inches long. Fort D A Russell is about 20 miles from where I found it.

 

[fortbybee]

HOW BIG IS THAT ONE ?

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Definitely a US Army Infantry hat-insignia, Enlisted-man's style, from 1851 to 1871. It was replaced in 1872 by a smaller horn with tassels wrapped around two places on the horn.

As the photos below indicate, the one you dug has been "stretched out" from its original width.

 

[fortbybee]

Wow ! Thats great. Thank you so much for the pictures and information. It makes it an even better find when you have that kind of information to go with it.

 

[fortbybee]

Thanks for the picture and information !

 

[cntrydncr1]

very cool find!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I should have mentioned, the photo on the right shows an excavated specimen's front. The photo on the left shows a non-excavated ("non-dug") specimen's back. I included the non-exacavted back view to show the CORRECT original brass wire attachment-loops. The loops were held onto the insignia with a spot of solder. The attachment-loops are usually missing on excavated specimens.

The reason I said "CORRECT" attachment is that many non-exacavated Originals, and most Reproductions, have a straight wire as the attachment method. When you see one of these US 1851-to-1871 Enlisted-man's hat insignia with straight wire instead of a loop, it means the Enlisted-man's hat insignia is either Post-Civil-War or a Reproduction. Here is a photo of some specimens sold by Bannerman's Surplus, long after the Civil War ended, with the straight wires. Please do NOT pay a civil war relic price for these with straight wire. It should be a brass wire LOOP, with both ends of the wire loop embedded in the solder-spot, as you see in the photo I posted previously.

 

[Gunrunner61]

Very cool find! ...HH

 

[fortbybee]

Very interesting. This one has a solder spot on each end no pins or loops left on it. I have found alot of pre 1876 45-70 cartridges and rim fire cartridges on the same hill top.Also eagle buttons and nap sack hooks. I need a good artifact book on these types of finds. Do you know of one that shows lots of pictures ? Thanks again for all the great info. May