Small beach next to Maine Colonial Site, 1605 landing.

[DownEast_Detecting]

I went for my second beach hunt ever today. im way more into the history/relics, but this tiny beach is right down the road from Colonial Pemaquid. (see red circle on old map below) This whole area is one of the oldest in Maine. In In 1605, George Waymouth and Englishman, with 29 men landed at Pemaquid. This is 2 years before the settlement of the first permanent colony at Jamestown, Virginia. And fifteen years before the landing of the Pilgrims at Plymouth. He had intended to go ashore in Cape Cod. But fearful that the sand and shoals would provide too poor an anchorage, he continued north and east. After spending some time among the islands in the surround waters. He explored the mainland for a week. While there he captured 5 native Americans and took them back to England. They apparently lived with the better English families and were well treated. Since several of them upon their return to America acted as guides for Captain John Smith and other early explorers for the many islands, rivers, bays, and inlets of the Maine coast.
In the early days Pemaquid represented an important strategic position. It was the last outpost between the Englsih and the French. Both of whom claimed territory between the Kennebec and St. Croix river. The history of Pemaquid is closely tied with the rise and fall of the four forts that have been built there. Briefly the first fort, Fort Pemaquid was erected in 1630.And was burned by the Native Americans in 1676. The fort was replaced by Fort Charles in 1677. Which in turn was destroyed during the Native American massacre of 1689. Then in 1692 Fort William Henery, the first stone fort in New England was built. This lasted only four years. In 1696 it was captured by the French fleet under D'Iberville. Supported on land by a band of several hundred Native Americans under Castine. For the next 30 years the entire peninsula was deserted due to fear of the Native Americans. Then David Dunbar was commissioned to build the fourth and last fort, Fort Frederick in 1729. This fort lasted for 46 years, until it was torn down by the citizens of the town of Bristol in 1775. To keep it out of the hands of the British during the Revolutionary War.

These are the finds form the permission.
#1 biggest spoon bowl ive dug, but probably 1800's. not great a dating spoons yet.
#2 round ball or fishing weight?
#3 jackknife not sure how old but probably not more that 50-75 years.
#4 Chape, im hoping is colonial right?
#5 show buckle frame i believe.
#6 rose head nail? so old right? hand wrought?

Now these are my finds from the little beach, which i assume has been hunted thoroughly. But pulled quite of lot of stuff.

#7 and #8 modern-ish silverware. #8 is a "big ol" spoon
#9 a buddha
#10 a pocket watch. I dont think this one is as old as the one i pulled from big beach around the corner.
#11 button
#12 i have no idea. lead that someone was cutting pieces from?
#13 old toy car
#14 no idea. anybody?
#15 what do they call that. a pour off or something?
#16 I really have no idea. This thing is weird, found together. Probably post this in what is it. If nobody knows here.
#17 is this scrap lead with a hole in it?
#18 one looks like a cuff link, not sure about the other.
#19 encrusted coin. not much left of it. i broke into it.
#20 The smallest target i have ever dug. some brass washer i think
#21 buckles of some sort. are they old? are they horsey stuff? not sure
#22 old school washers?
the rest is various bits and bobs. i dont think any of it is old.

here is a birds eye view of one of the archeological excavations of the village around the fort in the 1960's. (Talk about some cellar holes i would like to detect around.) and just a tiny sampling of stuff they found then.They found 8,000 pipe pieces. The Maine State if kinda slacking if you ask me. I feel like a proper more extensive dig should be done here.

and some thumbnails for full images if you are on a phone.

 

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I went for my second beach hunt ever today. im way more into the history/relics, but this tiny beach is right down the road from Colonial Pemaquid. (see red circle on old map below) This whole area is one of the oldest in Maine. In In 1605, George Waymouth and Englishman, with 29 men landed at Pemaquid. This is 2 years before the settlement of the first permanent colony at Jamestown, Virginia. And fifteen years before the landing of the Pilgrims at Plymouth. He had intended to go ashore in Cape Cod. But fearful that the sand and shoals would provide too poor an anchorage, he continued north and east. After spending some time among the islands in the surround waters. He explored the mainland for a week. While there he captured 5 native Americans and took them back to England. They apparently lived with the better English families and were well treated. Since several of them upon their return to America acted as guides for Captain John Smith and other early explorers for the many islands, rivers, bays, and inlets of the Maine coast.
In the early days Pemaquid represented an important strategic position. It was the last outpost between the Englsih and the French. Both of whom claimed territory between the Kennebec and St. Croix river. The history of Pemaquid is closely tied with the rise and fall of the four forts that have been built there. Briefly the first fort, Fort Pemaquid was erected in 1630.And was burned by the Native Americans in 1676. The fort was replaced by Fort Charles in 1677. Which in turn was destroyed during the Native American massacre of 1689. Then in 1692 Fort William Henery, the first stone fort in New England was built. This lasted only four years. In 1696 it was captured by the French fleet under D'Iberville. Supported on land by a band of several hundred Native Americans under Castine. For the next 30 years the entire peninsula was deserted due to fear of the Native Americans. Then David Dunbar was commissioned to build the fourth and last fort, Fort Frederick in 1729. This fort lasted for 46 years, until it was torn down by the citizens of the town of Bristol in 1775. To keep it out of the hands of the British during the Revolutionary War.

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These are the finds form the permission.
#1 biggest spoon bowl ive dug, but probably 1800's. not great a dating spoons yet.
#2 round ball or fishing weight?
#3 jackknife not sure how old but probably not more that 50-75 years.
#4 Chape, im hoping is colonial right?
#5 show buckle frame i believe.
#6 rose head nail? so old right? hand wrought?
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Now these are my finds from the little beach, which i assume has been hunted thoroughly. But pulled quite of lot of stuff.
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#7 and #8 modern-ish silverware. #8 is a "big ol" spoon
#9 a buddha
#10 a pocket watch. I dont think this one is as old as the one i pulled from big beach around the corner.
#11 button
#12 i have no idea. lead that someone was cutting pieces from?
#13 old toy car
#14 no idea. anybody?
#15 what do they call that. a pour off or something?
#16 I really have no idea. This thing is weird, found together. Probably post this in what is it. If nobody knows here.
#17 is this scrap lead with a hole in it?
#18 one looks like a cuff link, not sure about the other.
#19 encrusted coin. not much left of it. i broke into it.
#20 The smallest target i have ever dug. some brass washer i think
#21 buckles of some sort. are they old? are they horsey stuff? not sure
#22 old school washers?
the rest is various bits and bobs. i dont think any of it is old.
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here is a birds eye view of one of the archeological excavations of the village around the fort in the 1960's. (Talk about some cellar holes i would like to detect around.) and just a tiny sampling of stuff they found then.They found 8,000 pipe pieces. The Maine State if kinda slacking if you ask me. I feel like a proper more extensive dig should be done here.
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Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!

 

[DownEast_Detecting]

Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!

thanks

i have a question. how does this post have 2 people that "voted" for or "liked" it but its at 0 votes. Is it possible to down vote a post? i didn't know you could do that. just curious.

 

[Almy]

Thank you for a very informative and interesting post! You surely have a rich historical area!
Some comments: The spoon bowl and partial handle in 1 may be older than you think. The thin handle with the wider part suggests it to me. 2 looks to be about .69" which is the size of a British military musket ball. 4 and 5 appear to be parts of colonial-era buckles. 6 is a indeed hand forged "rosehead"nail. 14 looks like pieces of light brass hinges or reinforcing plates used on trunks or furniture.

 

[DownEast_Detecting]

Thank you for a very informative and interesting post! You surely have a rich historical area!
Some comments: The spoon bowl and partial handle in 1 may be older than you think. The thin handle with the wider part suggests it to me. 2 looks to be about .69" which is the size of a British military musket ball. 4 and 5 appear to be parts of colonial-era buckles. 6 is a indeed hand forged "rosehead"nail. 14 looks like pieces of light brass hinges or reinforcing plates used on trunks or furniture.

Thanks Almy! I put some thought and time into some of these posts. But it seems they are too long for some. But Im not blaming anybody, its just how it is these days. The internet has kind of conditioned us to ingest media in shorter and shorter formats. which has made it hard to capture someones attention span for longer that 30 seconds. You can tell some people dont even read the posts. They just comment with a "congrats" or "nice finds" to get their messages score up. maybe the metrics for increasing you member status should be more about quality rather than sheer quantity, i dont know. For me its more about the history and research. I love great finds but i'm guessing people dont just pick a random spot in the ground, tell us how you came to pick the area you searched you know or some local history most people don't know about. I love to learn new things.
Ok that was sort of a rant im sorry for that. LOL

#1 Do you have any good sites for dating spoons or does it just come from experience? Ive found a couple but nothing definitive.
#2 so you do think this is a round ball? i could measure it with calipers to be sure. i just wasnt sure if it was a fishing weight or not
#4 & 5 you think shoe, knee, or belt buckles?
#6 is an old nail, sweet. thanks for confirming.
#14 leaf pattern. i really had no idea, but light brass hinges or reinforcing plates on a trunk or chest i can see
thanks for reading and your opinion.

 

[Bamasteve]

Congrats on the very interesting finds and thanks for the very detailed and informative descriptions!

 

[pjad57]

Love the history. Buttons are always interesting and collectible. If there are any writings on the back of the buttons, it may be possible to date them.

 

[Centsless Detecting]

DownEast you are very fortunate to have access to a site that old with so much history. Thank you for your detailed post about the site, its history and your finds. I hope you have much continuing success there. I'm fortunate to have an attention span greater than 30 seconds by the way 🤣 most of the time that is!

 

[Almy]

1. I have found the book "Guide to Artifacts of Colonial America" by Ivor Noel Hume to be helpful identifying many artifacts I have found. It has a chapter on cutlery including spoons, but no pictures of spoons. Sites like Colonial Williamsburg may have pictures. This book is a real help to those like us who are really interested in identifying what we find and putting it in historical context.
2. You can tell if it is round. If it is lead and has no holes or splits for fishing line, it is likely a muzzleloading gun ball. If .69 or thereabouts, likely for a smoothbore musket.
4.&5. Check size and curvature. Knee buckles are usually smaller than shoe ones. Both have a curvature to fit the leg or foot. A belt buckle usually is flat.
Keep up the good work! I have been doing something similar farther north near the coast and have kept records of where and what I found. I have enough information for a publication and may do it. I have info that no one else has or ever will have. It may be the same for you.

 

[BennyV]

I went for my second beach hunt ever today. im way more into the history/relics, but this tiny beach is right down the road from Colonial Pemaquid. (see red circle on old map below) This whole area is one of the oldest in Maine. In In 1605, George Waymouth and Englishman, with 29 men landed at Pemaquid. This is 2 years before the settlement of the first permanent colony at Jamestown, Virginia. And fifteen years before the landing of the Pilgrims at Plymouth. He had intended to go ashore in Cape Cod. But fearful that the sand and shoals would provide too poor an anchorage, he continued north and east. After spending some time among the islands in the surround waters. He explored the mainland for a week. While there he captured 5 native Americans and took them back to England. They apparently lived with the better English families and were well treated. Since several of them upon their return to America acted as guides for Captain John Smith and other early explorers for the many islands, rivers, bays, and inlets of the Maine coast.
In the early days Pemaquid represented an important strategic position. It was the last outpost between the Englsih and the French. Both of whom claimed territory between the Kennebec and St. Croix river. The history of Pemaquid is closely tied with the rise and fall of the four forts that have been built there. Briefly the first fort, Fort Pemaquid was erected in 1630.And was burned by the Native Americans in 1676. The fort was replaced by Fort Charles in 1677. Which in turn was destroyed during the Native American massacre of 1689. Then in 1692 Fort William Henery, the first stone fort in New England was built. This lasted only four years. In 1696 it was captured by the French fleet under D'Iberville. Supported on land by a band of several hundred Native Americans under Castine. For the next 30 years the entire peninsula was deserted due to fear of the Native Americans. Then David Dunbar was commissioned to build the fourth and last fort, Fort Frederick in 1729. This fort lasted for 46 years, until it was torn down by the citizens of the town of Bristol in 1775. To keep it out of the hands of the British during the Revolutionary War.

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These are the finds form the permission.
#1 biggest spoon bowl ive dug, but probably 1800's. not great a dating spoons yet.
#2 round ball or fishing weight?
#3 jackknife not sure how old but probably not more that 50-75 years.
#4 Chape, im hoping is colonial right?
#5 show buckle frame i believe.
#6 rose head nail? so old right? hand wrought?
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Now these are my finds from the little beach, which i assume has been hunted thoroughly. But pulled quite of lot of stuff.
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#7 and #8 modern-ish silverware. #8 is a "big ol" spoon
#9 a buddha
#10 a pocket watch. I dont think this one is as old as the one i pulled from big beach around the corner.
#11 button
#12 i have no idea. lead that someone was cutting pieces from?
#13 old toy car
#14 no idea. anybody?
#15 what do they call that. a pour off or something?
#16 I really have no idea. This thing is weird, found together. Probably post this in what is it. If nobody knows here.
#17 is this scrap lead with a hole in it?
#18 one looks like a cuff link, not sure about the other.
#19 encrusted coin. not much left of it. i broke into it.
#20 The smallest target i have ever dug. some brass washer i think
#21 buckles of some sort. are they old? are they horsey stuff? not sure
#22 old school washers?
the rest is various bits and bobs. i dont think any of it is old.
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here is a birds eye view of one of the archeological excavations of the village around the fort in the 1960's. (Talk about some cellar holes i would like to detect around.) and just a tiny sampling of stuff they found then.They found 8,000 pipe pieces. The Maine State if kinda slacking if you ask me. I feel like a proper more extensive dig should be done here.
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I thoroughly enjoyed this post. I too am into the history around a site. Anything I find is gravy.

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Congrats on the great finds !

The locals call it "Fisherman's Beach" - my Mother In-Law used to live 5 miles from this beach by Pemaquid Point.
I hunted this beach at least 15 times over several years - found well over 150 keepers - coins, relics, jewelry, etc.
Many of the hunts I did were well after dark - low tide and no people around.
The reason you probably found a lot of small pieces of Copper at the East end by the Bridge is there was a Pier with a Arcade on it up until the 1950's or early 1960's.
With storms the sand keeps shifting and bringing up new things - as well as burying others.

Good Hunting !

 

[DownEast_Detecting]

Congrats on the very interesting finds and thanks for the very detailed and informative descriptions!

Thanks Bamasteve

Love the history. Buttons are always interesting and collectible. If there are any writings on the back of the buttons, it may be possible to date them.

did you see that button, #11. Definitely wont be getting any back marks off that one LOL. I think it might be some sort of modern 2 piece button anyway.

DownEast you are very fortunate to have access to a site that old with so much history. Thank you for your detailed post about the site, its history and your finds. I hope you have much continuing success there. I'm fortunate to have an attention span greater than 30 seconds by the way 🤣 most of the time that is!

Thank you Centsless!! It is kinda nice there are 2 public beaches so close to the old Colonial Fort and Village. I will probably start hitting them more often. Especially this fall when the people "from away" go back home.
I didnt think anyone would read that response about posts and attention spans. I figured people would see the size of the paragraph and be like "nah, i'm not gonna read that whole thing. Which just proves my point about everything i said in said paragraph. LOL thanks for being the exception that proves the rule Centsless!
P.S. I absolutely love your cultural spear point. one of the coolest things i have seen on here. And i learned something new. I had no idea Native Americans where making tools/weapons with anything but natural stuff(stone, bone, etc) I did some reading on it and its fascinating. Well done.

1. I have found the book "Guide to Artifacts of Colonial America" by Ivor Noel Hume to be helpful identifying many artifacts I have found. It has a chapter on cutlery including spoons, but no pictures of spoons. Sites like Colonial Williamsburg may have pictures. This book is a real help to those like us who are really interested in identifying what we find and putting it in historical context.
2. You can tell if it is round. If it is lead and has no holes or splits for fishing line, it is likely a muzzleloading gun ball. If .69 or thereabouts, likely for a smoothbore musket.
4.&5. Check size and curvature. Knee buckles are usually smaller than shoe ones. Both have a curvature to fit the leg or foot. A belt buckle usually is flat.
Keep up the good work! I have been doing something similar farther north near the coast and have kept records of where and what I found. I have enough information for a publication and may do it. I have info that no one else has or ever will have. It may be the same for you.

you mean this one? LOL

yeah i find so many round lead balls around here. But since fishing was so prominent around here, i always assume they are fishing weights. Im going to post all of them in "what is it" at some point, and get an opinion.
If you look closer at the pic above with it in it. The lower right one, you can see a vary faint "spilt" type of valley. Not sure how that would hold it onto a line, but would that negate it being a "bullet"?
#4&5 are straight but so tiny, thats why i was wondering. belts for babies? hehe
Yeah i keep track of all my historic finds with GPS and drawn on maps. Im making a super journal with all my local history, finds, reference stuff for ID's, treasure legends. Hopefully i can have one big book with everything in it. I bought a custom 10x14 leather bound notebook. had to pay more for extra pages past 200. I got 500. LOL i didnt want to run out of space. Ended up costing me like 450 bucks. But there was only one lady on Etsy that would make one that big. Here is an excerpt from the abandoned village site.(thumbnails at bottom as well) CannonBallGuy made it into this section. If i get good info or an accurate ID from someone on here. It goes in my giant journal, with credit of course. Good luck with your real book.

I thoroughly enjoyed this post. I too am into the history around a site. Anything I find is gravy.

Thank's so much for reading BennyV!

 

[Centsless Detecting]

You're definitely welcome DownEast. I can't wait to see what else you find at those spots. I'm sure if you were to get in the water there will be more goodies as well. Hopefully some of the non locals lost some gold for you to find, be it colonial or modern.

It's still can't believe I found that spear. I'm glad it taught you something. I had known of them but I never thought I would find one myself. We have to thank whoever made and lost it all those millenia ago. What's more baffling to me is that I have yet to find a stone point! Where the heck are they hiding?!

 

[DownEast_Detecting]

Congrats on the great finds !

The locals call it "Fisherman's Beach" - my Mother In-Law used to live 5 miles from this beach by Pemaquid Point.
I hunted this beach at least 15 times over several years - found well over 150 keepers - coins, relics, jewelry, etc.
Many of the hunts I did were well after dark - low tide and no people around.
The reason you probably found a lot of small pieces of Copper at the East end by the Bridge is there was a Pier with a Arcade on it up until the 1950's or early 1960's.
With storms the sand keeps shifting and bringing up new things - as well as burying others.

Good Hunting !

well well somebody knows this place well. I grew up in this area so im about as local as it gets. I spent a lot of time on both the Pemaquid beaches as a teenager and I've never heard this one called "Fisherman's beach" Maybe the summer people call it that or something. That point that is across the bridge is called "Fish point" Everybody just calls this one "Little Beach" and the other one "Big Beach". you use to be able to access the big one from this one. So we would always park at Little and walk through those grasslands to big beach so we didnt have to pay. damn teenagers lol. Then when that access got cut off, you can park on Pemaquid trail road on the other side of big beach. There is a path through the woods, again so we didnt have to pay. Apparently in later years they had a park attendant stand on the path in the woods to make sure the freeloaders payed. haha.
Yes there use to be a bowling ally at first, then it turned to a boardwalk type of arcade dance hall thing.(see aerial from 1953 below) because of that i tend to stick to the right side of the beach towards the fort. If you come to the area again hit me up. Ill bring you to my Abandoned village site which isn't very far away.
by the way did you see what somebody found on big beach, im pissed it wasn't me. Amazing if it turns out to be what we all hope it is.

 

[BennyV]

well well somebody knows this place well. I grew up in this area so im about as local as it gets. I spent a lot of time on both the Pemaquid beaches as a teenager and I've never heard this one called "Fisherman's beach" Maybe the summer people call it that or something. That point that is across the bridge is called "Fish point" Everybody just calls this one "Little Beach" and the other one "Big Beach". you use to be able to access the big one from this one. So we would always park at Little and walk through those grasslands to big beach so we didnt have to pay. damn teenagers lol. Then when that access got cut off, you can park on Pemaquid trail road on the other side of big beach. There is a path through the woods, again so we didnt have to pay. Apparently in later years they had a park attendant stand on the path in the woods to make sure the freeloaders payed. haha.
Yes there use to be a bowling ally at first, then it turned to a boardwalk type of arcade dance hall thing.(see aerial from 1953 below) because of that i tend to stick to the right side of the beach towards the fort. If you come to the area again hit me up. Ill bring you to my Abandoned village site which isn't very far away.
by the way did you see what somebody found on big beach, im pissed it wasn't me. Amazing if it turns out to be what we all hope it is.
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That’s an awesome blade. How old do you think it is and what was its purpose?

 

[Almy]

That's the book I suggested. You must have a copy. I have found it very revealing and helpful in my artifact study. I think balls are unlikely fishing line or fishing net weights unless there is a hole through them. Split shot for fishing lines are small. Net weights are usually oblong with a hole through the center. Musket balls were imported from England by the barrel early on. They were also cast at home or at the fort. In the hurry of loading, they would be easily dropped and easily lost. That, I suspect, is why we find so many.
Yes, the buckle frame and chape are small, so likely for the knee breeches rather than a shoe. I think I see curvature in the frame.

 

[ticndig]

Nice finds and write up, I read the whole thing and looked at every relic . looks like a great place to detect ." congrats"

 

[Silvermonkey]

Great post! Thank you for taking the time to put together all of this information and pics!
We are so fortunate to live in the North East where these types of finds are still possible. Rock on NED!

 

[DownEast_Detecting]

That’s an awesome blade. How old do you think it is and what was its purpose?

not sure i just know it has the potential to be a once in a lifetime find. The guy found it on my local beach after a storm where they were finding old coins. He mentions a Norse coin was found a short distance from this beach. I believe he is talking about this one 👉 The Mystery of Maine’s Viking Penny but i wouldn't call 70 miles a "short distance" I think he is trying to make a viking connection. Everybody on the 'what is it' thread agreed that it looks very old and crudely made, but no one wanted to commit for obvious reasons.
"a bronze artifact from the bronze age found in America would be HUGE news ...H-U-G-E. The tiniest broken bronze scrap found in Alaska during a dig was EPIC!"
"I do believe the late Bronze Age ended around 500 BCE. If a relic from that age found here it is world news."
ARC at first thought it might be a more modern harpoon tip but then said this
"I revisited this morning to try and dig in on this... and i have to say... i may be way off on my original thought...
You might have something really special here... i did some research and can find nothing similar other than ancient pieces in design and shape."
The OP said he "sent all pictures to the state historic archeologist and he is examining it. His first reaction was European in nature and quite old."
So who knows i hope we here back from him, im following and awaiting news.

That's the book I suggested. You must have a copy. I have found it very revealing and helpful in my artifact study. I think balls are unlikely fishing line or fishing net weights unless there is a hole through them. Split shot for fishing lines are small. Net weights are usually oblong with a hole through the center. Musket balls were imported from England by the barrel early on. They were also cast at home or at the fort. In the hurry of loading, they would be easily dropped and easily lost. That, I suspect, is why we find so many.
Yes, the buckle frame and chape are small, so likely for the knee breeches rather than a shoe. I think I see curvature in the frame.

I do have a copy and its a great reference. yes one buckle has a slight curve to it but no more that any other human belt or horsey related buckles ive found. So whats the final consensus shoe, knee, or belt for a baby? lol

Nice finds and write up, I read the whole thing and looked at every relic . looks like a great place to detect ." congrats"

Thank you ticndig. I know some of my posts can be a bit long so it means a lot.

Great post! Thank you for taking the time to put together all of this information and pics!
We are so fortunate to live in the North East where these types of finds are still possible. Rock on NED!

Thanks Silver monkey! Yes we are very fortunate, as long as you are into relics. If you are looking for that 22kk baller's gold chain. you are proably better off searching beaches in Florida or California. Not that they couldn't be found here once in a while, but you know what i mean.

 

[Sandog]

I check the thumbs up "Like" icon to let you know that I read your post and liked it. I don't know anything about the area, and next to nothing about your finds, but I liked seeing them. Please don't change the style of your posts because some of us don't respond with anything more than a quick note, they are well written and interesting. As I'm sure you knew already.
You may find the artifact photo on p38 of the following booklet interesting. Unfortunately there is nothing to say if this piece was determined to be pre-European contact.

https://www.kentuckyarchaeologicalsurvey.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Fort-Ancient-booklet.pdf